Re: [zfs-discuss] Hard Drive Choice Question
On 05/17/2012 04:10 AM, Ian Collins wrote: I wouldn't be too fussed about 7x24 rating in a home server. I still have a set of 10 regular Seagate drives I bought in 2007 that were spinning non stop for four years in a very hostile environment (my garage!). They simply refuse to die and I'm still using them in various test systems. Of course, your mileage will vary. Lately I've been having better luck with my 500 GB WD Blue drives, while in two systems I have recently replaced dying Segate 500 GB drives (7200.11) from 2009. One was part of a ZFS mirror, and the other a Linux mdraid mirror. The drive in the OI box had a very large number of reallocated sectors and finally showed a bad SMART status (but no ZFS checksum errors on scrub). The drive in the Linux system started throwing read errors, yet had few reallocated sectors and still showed PASSED in the SMART data. Worse, it FAILED to reallocate sectors! If you're running 2009-vintage 7200.11 Barracudas, be prepared to replace them soon if you haven't already done so. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Hard Drive Choice Question
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote: What do people like today for 7x24 operation SATA drives? I am willing to consider 2TB, but don't really need the extra capacity (but if that is all the market offers, I don't have to use the other half :-) I found a Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB for about $350 (which is more than I really want to spend, I got the ES2 1TB drives for about $130 when I bought them). I have been sticking with Seagate as I am comfortable with them, but am willing to look at others. The only thing I insist on is that the drive be rated for 7x24 operation. I got uncomfortable with the way Seagate handled that whole 1.5TB firmware issue, and then there was a recent crop of 3TB drives that had issues, but those were consumer, not 7x24 drives. I would take a look at Hitachi, since that's what Sun put in my x4540. I've also had some luck with the samsungs. One interesting thing I saw (I have 4x3TB samsungs and 3x 3TB seagates in one zfs pool) is that the SMART counters climb very fast for 2 or 3 of the counters. I don't recall which offhand, but if you have a chance, I'd like to validate if it's my drive, or if it's normal. Thanks. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Hard Drive Choice Question
Am 16.05.12 16:53, schrieb Paul Kraus: I have a small server at home (HP Proliant Micro N36) that I use for file, DNS, DHCP, etc. services. I currently have a zpool of four mirrored 1 TB Seagate ES2 SATA drives. Well, it was a zpool of four until last night when one of the drives died. ZFS did it's job and all the data is still OK. The drive is still under warranty and is going back to Seagate, but it raised an issue. I want to pick up a spare drive or two so that I don't have to wait for shipping delays when a drive fails. I was just going to pick up another 1 TB ES2 or two, but I find that those drives are no longer available (I bought mine in 2009, warranty is up in 2014). What do people like today for 7x24 operation SATA drives? I am willing to consider 2TB, but don't really need the extra capacity (but if that is all the market offers, I don't have to use the other half :-) I found a Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB for about $350 (which is more than I really want to spend, I got the ES2 1TB drives for about $130 when I bought them). I have been sticking with Seagate as I am comfortable with them, but am willing to look at others. The only thing I insist on is that the drive be rated for 7x24 operation. I am using a couple of its successor the N40L and after having flashed another BIOS - which allowes for AHCI and SATA on all drives channels - I am loving these little boxes. They're quiet and they only draw about 70 Watts (each, of course ;) ). The drives I am using are Hitachi HUAs 72202 (Ultrastar 2TB), 2 mirrored vdevs, providing 3,6 TB. They are still kinda pricy, but I do have a lot of them running at work and they rarely gave me trouble. There are a couple of Hitachi Deskstar drives, that I would be tempted to try out, since they are tagged as 24/7 and they seem to be much cheaper, but then I am always trying to figure out why these drives are only 60% of the HUA's price and and what if that'd be for a reason. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Hard Drive Choice Question
On 05/17/12 02:53 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: I have a small server at home (HP Proliant Micro N36) that I use for file, DNS, DHCP, etc. services. I currently have a zpool of four mirrored 1 TB Seagate ES2 SATA drives. Well, it was a zpool of four until last night when one of the drives died. ZFS did it's job and all the data is still OK. The drive is still under warranty and is going back to Seagate, but it raised an issue. I want to pick up a spare drive or two so that I don't have to wait for shipping delays when a drive fails. I was just going to pick up another 1 TB ES2 or two, but I find that those drives are no longer available (I bought mine in 2009, warranty is up in 2014). What do people like today for 7x24 operation SATA drives? I am willing to consider 2TB, but don't really need the extra capacity (but if that is all the market offers, I don't have to use the other half :-) I found a Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB for about $350 (which is more than I really want to spend, I got the ES2 1TB drives for about $130 when I bought them). I have been sticking with Seagate as I am comfortable with them, but am willing to look at others. The only thing I insist on is that the drive be rated for 7x24 operation. I wouldn't be too fussed about 7x24 rating in a home server. I still have a set of 10 regular Seagate drives I bought in 2007 that were spinning non stop for four years in a very hostile environment (my garage!). They simply refuse to die and I'm still using them in various test systems. -- Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Hard Drive Choice Question
I have a small server at home (HP Proliant Micro N36) that I use
for file, DNS, DHCP, etc. services. I currently have a zpool of four
mirrored 1 TB Seagate ES2 SATA drives. Well, it was a zpool of four
until last night when one of the drives died. ZFS did it's job and all
the data is still OK.
The drive is still under warranty and is going back to Seagate,
but it raised an issue. I want to pick up a spare drive or two so that
I don't have to wait for shipping delays when a drive fails. I was
just going to pick up another 1 TB ES2 or two, but I find that those
drives are no longer available (I bought mine in 2009, warranty is up
in 2014).
What do people like today for 7x24 operation SATA drives? I am
willing to consider 2TB, but don't really need the extra capacity (but
if that is all the market offers, I don't have to use the other half
:-) I found a Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB for about $350 (which is
more than I really want to spend, I got the ES2 1TB drives for about
$130 when I bought them). I have been sticking with Seagate as I am
comfortable with them, but am willing to look at others. The only
thing I insist on is that the drive be rated for 7x24 operation.
Thanks, in advance for all of your informed opinions.
P.S. I am sending this to TWO lists, please do NOT respond to the list
you are NOT subscribed to :-)
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