Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-10-06 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 07:28:02PM -0700, Paul Kraus wrote:
 
> I have been told by Oracle Support (not first line, but someone
> from engineering in response to an escalation) that the code is done
> to put aclmode back in, and that an IDR can probably be cut against
> the 10U10 kernel. They are finding out when it will be integrated.

I just got an update on my ticket indicating they plan to restore
aclmode in U11, and asking if I can just wait for that. I'm going to
push for a U10 patch to restore it and an IDR pending that.

What a waste of effort all around :(, it really shouldn't have been
removed in the first place IMHO.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-10-05 Thread Paul Kraus
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Paul B. Henson  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:13:40PM -0700, Paul Kraus wrote:
>
>> Another potential difference ... I have been told by Oracle Support
>> (but have not yet confirmed) that just running the latest zfs code
>> (Solaris 10U10) will disable the aclmode property, even if you do not
>> upgrade the zpool version beyond 22. I expect to test this next week,
>> as we _need_ ACLs to work for our data.
>
> I haven't installed U10, but have confirmed that installing the U10
> kernel patch removes aclmode :(. Didn't expect that Solaris 11 change to

I have also confirmed that it is a code change and not tied to
on-disk format. A version 22 zpool, when imported on a system with the
10U10 kernel, no longer includes aclmode.

> be backported... I personally have SR 3-4631579271 open requesting that
> breakage be fixed, referencing CR #7002239 which is an RFE to restore
> aclmode to Solaris 11. If you have a service contract and care (or even if
> you don't care but would like to help out those who do ;) ), open a
> ticket requesting the fix for CR #7002239 and get some weight behind it
> :).

I have been told by Oracle Support (not first line, but someone
from engineering in response to an escalation) that the code is done
to put aclmode back in, and that an IDR can probably be cut against
the 10U10 kernel. They are finding out when it will be integrated.

We need a snapshot deletion fix that is in zpool 26, but we also
need aclmode (or at least functional ACLs), which was removed in the
10U10 kernel.

> Support's recommended workaround is basically "don't use chmod" 8-/. As
> if you can control all the things that call chmod behind your back, let
> alone the NFS exclusive open issue which stomps on your ACL no matter
> *what* you do ...

> What makes this even more annoying is that U10 backports
> ngroups_max=1024 support, which I could *really* *really* use...

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Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-10-05 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:13:40PM -0700, Paul Kraus wrote:

> Another potential difference ... I have been told by Oracle Support
> (but have not yet confirmed) that just running the latest zfs code
> (Solaris 10U10) will disable the aclmode property, even if you do not
> upgrade the zpool version beyond 22. I expect to test this next week,
> as we _need_ ACLs to work for our data.

I haven't installed U10, but have confirmed that installing the U10
kernel patch removes aclmode :(. Didn't expect that Solaris 11 change to
be backported... I personally have SR 3-4631579271 open requesting that
breakage be fixed, referencing CR #7002239 which is an RFE to restore
aclmode to Solaris 11. If you have a service contract and care (or even if
you don't care but would like to help out those who do ;) ), open a
ticket requesting the fix for CR #7002239 and get some weight behind it
:).

Support's recommended workaround is basically "don't use chmod" 8-/. As
if you can control all the things that call chmod behind your back, let
alone the NFS exclusive open issue which stomps on your ACL no matter
*what* you do ...

What makes this even more annoying is that U10 backports
ngroups_max=1024 support, which I could *really* *really* use...


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Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-09-30 Thread Enda O'Connor

On 29/09/2011 23:59, Rich Teer wrote:

Hi all,

Got a quick question: what are the latest zpool and zfs versions
supported in Solaris 10 Update 10?

TIA,



root@pstx2200a # zfs upgrade -v
The following filesystem versions are supported:

VER  DESCRIPTION
---  
 1   Initial ZFS filesystem version
 2   Enhanced directory entries
 3   Case insensitive and File system unique identifier (FUID)
 4   userquota, groupquota properties
 5   System attributes

For more information on a particular version, including supported releases,
see the ZFS Administration Guide.

root@pstx2200a # zpool upgrade -a
This system is currently running ZFS pool version 29.

All pools are formatted using this version.
root@pstx2200a # cat /etc/release
Oracle Solaris 10 8/11 s10x_u10wos_17b X86
  Copyright (c) 1983, 2011, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights 
reserved.

Assembled 23 August 2011
root@pstx2200a #
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Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-09-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
 wrote:
>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ian Collins
>>
>> > Got a quick question: what are the latest zpool and zfs versions
>> > supported in Solaris 10 Update 10?
>> >
>> In update 10: pool version 29, ZFS version 5.
>
> I don't know what the other differences are, but the first one I noticed is
> the sync property.  Even if you don't zpool upgrade or zfs upgrade, just by
> applying the patches to an older solaris 10, you can't disable ZIL anymore
> via /etc/system.  At least not in the way that formerly worked, as described
> on the evil tuning guide.  Now you use the sync property instead.  This is a
> change for positive, but surprised me.

Another potential difference ... I have been told by Oracle Support
(but have not yet confirmed) that just running the latest zfs code
(Solaris 10U10) will disable the aclmode property, even if you do not
upgrade the zpool version beyond 22. I expect to test this next week,
as we _need_ ACLs to work for our data.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-09-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ian Collins
> 
> > Got a quick question: what are the latest zpool and zfs versions
> > supported in Solaris 10 Update 10?
> >
> In update 10: pool version 29, ZFS version 5.

I don't know what the other differences are, but the first one I noticed is
the sync property.  Even if you don't zpool upgrade or zfs upgrade, just by
applying the patches to an older solaris 10, you can't disable ZIL anymore
via /etc/system.  At least not in the way that formerly worked, as described
on the evil tuning guide.  Now you use the sync property instead.  This is a
change for positive, but surprised me.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-09-29 Thread Ian Collins

 On 09/30/11 11:59 AM, Rich Teer wrote:

Hi all,

Got a quick question: what are the latest zpool and zfs versions
supported in Solaris 10 Update 10?


In update 10: pool version 29, ZFS version 5.

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[zfs-discuss] S10 version question

2011-09-29 Thread Rich Teer
Hi all,

Got a quick question: what are the latest zpool and zfs versions
supported in Solaris 10 Update 10?

TIA,

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