Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris derivate with the best long-term future
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > > > It would be interesting to see when zpool versions >28 will > > be available in the open forks. Particularly encryption is > > a very useful functionality. > > Illumos advanced to zpool version 5000 and this is available in the > latest OpenIndiana development release. Does that make you happy? > > As far as which Solaris derivate has the best future, it is clear that > Illumos has a lot of development energy right now and there is little > reason to believe that this energy will cease. Illumos-derived > distributions may come and go but it looks like Illumos has a future, > particularly once it frees itself from all Sun-derived binary > components. FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT is at zpool version 5000 as well. It supports ZFS-independent full disk encryption through geli and gbde. I've been using ZFS on geli since the ZFS import in 2007 and while there are still a couple of unresolved bugs, overall I'm quite satisfied. Of course FDE is less flexible than the per-dataset encryption offered by Oracle ZFS, but personally I prefer to encrypt all the data in the pool anyway and Oracle ZFS is not designed to do that: https://blogs.oracle.com/darren/entry/zfs_encryption_what_is_on I certainly wouldn't mind additionally being able to use encryption inside ZFS, though. Fabian signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris derivate with the best long-term future
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote: It would be interesting to see when zpool versions >28 will be available in the open forks. Particularly encryption is a very useful functionality. Illumos advanced to zpool version 5000 and this is available in the latest OpenIndiana development release. Does that make you happy? As far as which Solaris derivate has the best future, it is clear that Illumos has a lot of development energy right now and there is little reason to believe that this energy will cease. Illumos-derived distributions may come and go but it looks like Illumos has a future, particularly once it frees itself from all Sun-derived binary components. Oracle continues with Solaris 11 and does seem to be funding necessary driver and platform support. User access to Solaris 11 may be abitrarily limited. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris derivate with the best long-term future
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 08:48:54AM -0400, Hung-Sheng Tsao Ph.D. wrote: > hi > if U have not check this page please do > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS > interesting info about the status of ZFS in various OS > regards Thanks for the pointer. It doesn't answer my question though -- where the most development momentum is. It does seem that Illumian is a Debian-flavored distro of OpenIndiana, so I wonder why the napp-it author puts OpenIndiana first in his list. It would be interesting to see when zpool versions >28 will be available in the open forks. Particularly encryption is a very useful functionality. > my 2c > 1)if you have the money buy ZFS appliance I would certainly not give any money to Oracle. > 2)if you want to build your self napp-it get solaris 11 support, it only Oracle Solaris is dead to me for pretty much the same reasons. > charge the SW/socket and not change by storage capacity > Nexenta Enterprise platform charge U $$ for raw capacity I'm currently using NexentaCore which is EOL. It seems my choices are either OpenIndiana or Illumian, which seem to be very closely related. > On 7/11/2012 7:51 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> As a napp-it user who recently needs to upgrade from NexentaCore I recently >> saw >> "preferred for OpenIndiana live but running under Illumian, NexentaCore and >> Solaris 11 (Express)" >> as a system recommendation for napp-it. >> >> I wonder about the future of OpenIndiana and Illumian, which >> fork is likely to see the most continued development, in your opinion? >> >> Thanks. >> ___ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris derivate with the best long-term future
On 07/11/2012 01:51 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > As a napp-it user who recently needs to upgrade from NexentaCore I recently > saw > "preferred for OpenIndiana live but running under Illumian, NexentaCore and > Solaris 11 (Express)" > as a system recommendation for napp-it. > > I wonder about the future of OpenIndiana and Illumian, which > fork is likely to see the most continued development, in your opinion? I use OpenIndiana personally, since it's the one I'm most familiar with (direct continuation of OpenSolaris tradition). If you need something with commercial support in that spirit, I recommend having a look at OmniOS. Joyent's SmartOS is really interesting, albeit a bit narrow-profile for my taste (plus, its use of NetBSD packaging means I'll have to adapt to a new way of doing things and I like IPS very much). Cheers, -- Saso ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris derivate with the best long-term future
hi if U have not check this page please do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS interesting info about the status of ZFS in various OS regards my 2c 1)if you have the money buy ZFS appliance 2)if you want to build your self napp-it get solaris 11 support, it only charge the SW/socket and not change by storage capacity Nexenta Enterprise platform charge U $$ for raw capacity On 7/11/2012 7:51 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: As a napp-it user who recently needs to upgrade from NexentaCore I recently saw "preferred for OpenIndiana live but running under Illumian, NexentaCore and Solaris 11 (Express)" as a system recommendation for napp-it. I wonder about the future of OpenIndiana and Illumian, which fork is likely to see the most continued development, in your opinion? Thanks. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -- <>___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Solaris derivate with the best long-term future
As a napp-it user who recently needs to upgrade from NexentaCore I recently saw "preferred for OpenIndiana live but running under Illumian, NexentaCore and Solaris 11 (Express)" as a system recommendation for napp-it. I wonder about the future of OpenIndiana and Illumian, which fork is likely to see the most continued development, in your opinion? Thanks. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
