Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
> $1 for Android and OS X clients --- I meant Android and IOS clients. The OS X sync client is (I believe) free and open source, as with desktop Linux and Windows. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Brendan Kidwell wrote: > I have several hundred pages (in ~3 notebooks) of Zim data that was in > Dropbox for a long time. Two weeks ago I switch to a private ownCloud > instance of mine (hosted on prgmr.com). > > My thoughts: > > * Use the ownCloud desktop sync tool (free for desktop OSes; pay $1 I > think for Android and OS X clients -- of course there's no Zim front-end > for Android or OS X yet anyway, but see next note). The desktop sync tool > uses WebDav and also polls the back-end every 30 seconds to ask if there > are upstream changes. In practice it works about as well as Dropbox and > Google Drive. TRANSPARENT to any desktop apps that just want a pile of > files. > > * You can edit Zim pages using ownCloud's built-in text editor in the > desktop web front-end, and in the Android or OS X clients -- great for > devices where Zim is not installed. > > * Be sure to a) tell the ownCloud sync client never to sync folders named > '.zim'; or b) make sure all your notebooks have the Shared property set to > True. > > * I have noticed occasionally that Zim says something about a temp file it > couldn't write or delete ... or something. But if I dismiss the dialog box > and wait a few seconds, the problem goes away. I have not lost data. If I > can ever figure out how to reproduce it, I will grab debug output and try > to open a coherent bug report. > > Bottom line: ownCloud backend + ownCloud desktop sync + Zim is a winning > combination. > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM, SultansOfSwing wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing >> capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem >> was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for >> temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those >> happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and >> even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed >> over all other clients and so forth. >> >> (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again >> and let you know if things changed.) >> >> Regards, >> SultansOfSwing. >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki >> Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
I have several hundred pages (in ~3 notebooks) of Zim data that was in Dropbox for a long time. Two weeks ago I switch to a private ownCloud instance of mine (hosted on prgmr.com). My thoughts: * Use the ownCloud desktop sync tool (free for desktop OSes; pay $1 I think for Android and OS X clients -- of course there's no Zim front-end for Android or OS X yet anyway, but see next note). The desktop sync tool uses WebDav and also polls the back-end every 30 seconds to ask if there are upstream changes. In practice it works about as well as Dropbox and Google Drive. TRANSPARENT to any desktop apps that just want a pile of files. * You can edit Zim pages using ownCloud's built-in text editor in the desktop web front-end, and in the Android or OS X clients -- great for devices where Zim is not installed. * Be sure to a) tell the ownCloud sync client never to sync folders named '.zim'; or b) make sure all your notebooks have the Shared property set to True. * I have noticed occasionally that Zim says something about a temp file it couldn't write or delete ... or something. But if I dismiss the dialog box and wait a few seconds, the problem goes away. I have not lost data. If I can ever figure out how to reproduce it, I will grab debug output and try to open a coherent bug report. Bottom line: ownCloud backend + ownCloud desktop sync + Zim is a winning combination. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM, SultansOfSwing wrote: > Hello, > > I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing > capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem > was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for > temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those > happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and > even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed > over all other clients and so forth. > > (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again > and let you know if things changed.) > > Regards, > SultansOfSwing. > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
If anybody wants to try this with Owncloud, may I suggest http://indieboxproject.org/ After installing Indie Box, deploying Owncloud is as simple as this: curl https://raw.github.com/indieboxproject/indie-owncloud/master/examples/s0070.json | indie-box-admin deploy (editing the file first might be advantageous to adjust virtual host names and credentials) To install Indie Box, see http://indieboxproject.org/wiki/Main_Page for x86, ARM, Raspberry PI and the like. Disclaimer: you guessed it, Indie Box is one of my babies. Cheers, Johannes. On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:01, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > If you do test this again, you might want to log the details in the bug > tracker. Maybe we could make a simple modification to have a compatible > backend in zim that ignores these tmp files. > > -- Jaap > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM, SultansOfSwing wrote: > Hello, > > I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing > capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem > was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for > temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those > happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and > even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed > over all other clients and so forth. > > (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again > and let you know if things changed.) > > Regards, > SultansOfSwing. > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
If you do test this again, you might want to log the details in the bug tracker. Maybe we could make a simple modification to have a compatible backend in zim that ignores these tmp files. -- Jaap On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM, SultansOfSwing wrote: > Hello, > > I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing > capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem > was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for > temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those > happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and > even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed > over all other clients and so forth. > > (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again > and let you know if things changed.) > > Regards, > SultansOfSwing. > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
Hello, I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed over all other clients and so forth. (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again and let you know if things changed.) Regards, SultansOfSwing. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
Le 09/01/2014 17:31, Johannes Ernst a écrit : You could use Owncloud's WebDAV functionality to mount a directory on all machines you want to use Zim on, and have Zim store its files there. Downside: only works when you have network access. Upside: no third party in the loop, open-source. Alternatively, you could use something like BitTorrent Sync to synchronize Zim's data directories across machines. This works off-line as well. Downside: not open-source. Upside: no third party in the loop (like in case of Dropbox etc.) Couldn't git (control version system) also achieves this? Could computing, can raise privacy difficulties... Just a hint, Regards, Sylvain. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
You could use Owncloud's WebDAV functionality to mount a directory on all machines you want to use Zim on, and have Zim store its files there. Downside: only works when you have network access. Upside: no third party in the loop, open-source. Alternatively, you could use something like BitTorrent Sync to synchronize Zim's data directories across machines. This works off-line as well. Downside: not open-source. Upside: no third party in the loop (like in case of Dropbox etc.) On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:48, Chris Miller wrote: > Hi Folks, > > A good note application is only as good as my access to it, and this means > that I need it to be with me wherever I am. Recently I heard of OwnCloud, > which is cloud-like file sync among a variety of locations, and this sounds > good. I see that OwnCloud also has some sort of application distribution, > which I don't yet understand. > > Can I configure Zim as an OwnCloud application so that I will always have it > no matter where I am? If no, then can anybody recommend a way to have one > notebook synchronized at multiple possibly disconnected locations, like > notebook, desktop, tablet, ... > > Thanks for the help, > > Chris. > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations
Hi Folks, A good note application is only as good as my access to it, and this means that I need it to be with me wherever I am. Recently I heard of OwnCloud, which is cloud-like file sync among a variety of locations, and this sounds good. I see that OwnCloud also has some sort of application distribution, which I don't yet understand. Can I configure Zim as an OwnCloud application so that I will always have it no matter where I am? If no, then can anybody recommend a way to have one notebook synchronized at multiple possibly disconnected locations, like notebook, desktop, tablet, ... Thanks for the help, Chris. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp