[ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread George Cobabe
John W. Redelfs suggested the following as a general description of Moral War. We are people of peace. We are followers of the Christ who was and is the Prince of Peace. But there are times when we must stand up for right and decency, for freedom and civilization, just as Moroni rallied his

[ZION] The Zion List Has Moved

2003-01-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
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Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
George Cobabe favored us with: The question was asked by one, is it not possible for both sides to fight a moral war? No, it is not!!! We must only fight after we have done all we can to prevent a war. If both sides are trying to do this, war will not occur. Moral action by both parties

Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread George Cobabe
John, I am willing to answer, and defend, but first answer the question that we have been discussing. Are we in general agreement as to what constitutes a Moral War? If so then we can apply the test and come up with a satisfactory conclusion. If not, then why bother? as discussion will not be

[ZION] Important Questions

2003-01-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
Here are three important questions that need to be answered before we launch a preemptive strike against Iraq: Who has more nuclear weapons, Iraq or the United States? Who has more chemical weapons, Iraq or the United States? Who has more biological weapons, Iraq or the United States? If the

Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
George Cobabe favored us with: John, I am willing to answer, and defend, but first answer the question that we have been discussing. Are we in general agreement as to what constitutes a Moral War? If so then we can apply the test and come up with a satisfactory conclusion. If not, then why

Re: [ZION] Important Questions

2003-01-23 Thread Jon Spencer
John - I will not write what initially came to my mind when I read your post. It might be misunderstood! :-) So, let me state that there are several reasons why a country might arm itself. These include: 1. To act as a deterrent. In this case, the fact that they have them is made known

Re: [ZION] Important Questions

2003-01-23 Thread Paul Osborne
Gee-wizz, John. I thought we weren't suppose to talk about Iraq? Remember the last flame war we had? Well, since we are about to go at it again I will only make one little itty bitty comment which is that I hope we bomb the hell out Iraq and roll our tanks right into the palaces of that madman in