[ZION] Cause for rejoicing

2004-03-09 Thread Heidi the fair
Yesterday, I given reasons to rejoice. They are: (1)I saw the first daffodils of the year...spring (and my seasonal sinus problems) can't be too far off! (2)...and this is the MOST important: My sister (the one in Boston) and her boyfriend have announced plans to marry in August in

Re: [ZION] Cause for rejoicing

2004-03-09 Thread Jonathan Scott
Yesterday, I given reasons to rejoice. They are: (1)I saw the first daffodils of the year...spring (and my seasonal sinus problems) can't be too far off! (2)...and this is the MOST important: My sister (the one in Boston) and her boyfriend have announced plans to marry in August in

Re: [ZION] Cause for rejoicing

2004-03-09 Thread mormonyoyoman
Heartfelt congratulations to Heidi! There are few things as satisfying as seeing one's family doing the celestial thing! *jeep! ---Chet If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong. --Gus Segar via Popeye

RE: [ZION] Trial by Media

2004-03-09 Thread Gerald Smith
The sad thing is, she was offered a deal wherein she wouldn't have to do jail time, but her lawyer talked her out of it. I'm hearing she'll get about 18 months. And, of course her company will tank. Gary Tom Matkin wrote: -Original Message- From: RB Scott [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [ZION] Am I wasting my time?

2004-03-09 Thread Gerald Smith
I've just been too busy to look at it. Gary Jonathan Scott wrote: Hello, I've noticed that you all don't seem too interested in the things that I'm writing. Could you please tell me why that is? Is it that you disagree? Is it that you don't care? Is it that you're too busy to

RE: [ZION] Cause for rejoicing

2004-03-09 Thread Gerald Smith
I heard a rumor that Stacy Smith's husband was baptized over the weekend. I'm sure that is an awesome thing for her. Congrats, Heidi! Gary mormonyoyoman wrote: Heartfelt congratulations to Heidi! There are few things as satisfying as seeing one's family doing the celestial thing!

RE: [ZION] Farrell, Hatch and Redelfs

2004-03-09 Thread RB Scott
True enough. -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Farrell, Hatch and Redelfs Or, if it initially fails, it could cause enough anger in the states by normal, God-fearing people,

RE: [ZION] Trial by Media

2004-03-09 Thread RB Scott
I doubt her company will tank, although it will go through some rough times. -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Trial by Media The sad thing is, she was offered a deal wherein

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-09 Thread RB Scott
Gary: Some of us regard marriage as a religious blessing, a religious covenant. Some us, therefore, think the government has no business getting itself involved in a religious matter -- like determining what constitutes a marriage. The government ought to stick to defining what kinds of unions

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-09 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Some of us regard marriage as a religious blessing, a religious covenant. Some us, therefore, think the government has no business getting itself involved in a religious matter -- like determining what constitutes a marriage. If marriage is only a religious blessing, a

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-09 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong RB Scott wrote: Some of us regard marriage as a religious blessing, a religious covenant. Some us, therefore, think

[ZION] Retroactive laws

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Cobabe
John W. Redelfs wrote: --- I don't see how a law passed in the 21st century could have any effect on your 19th century ancestors. Laws aren't retroactive. --- It seldom makes any sense that they would be, but as I understand it, legal instruments are sometimes made to be retroactive, nunc pro

[ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual

2004-03-09 Thread Jonathan Scott
Howdy, My next chapters will be dealing with all the new sources of poverty that have shown up since the sixties...or before. I need information on corporations and on how they are making more money than before at the cost of employees salaries...perhaps also a chapter on jobs going overseas.

Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual

2004-03-09 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Jonathan Scott wrote: Can any of you think of any other of major sources of poverty since 1960? Credit cards? Anything... = Grampa Bill comments: The breakdown of the family stands at the head of the poverty cycle. Children of single parents are many times

RE: [ZION] An Answer to the World - Divorce and Single Parent Children

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Cobabe
Maggie Gallagher and Judith Wallerstien discuss social problems stemming from contemporary divorce practices. Many insightful comments. http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9708/gallagher.html // /// ZION LIST

RE: [ZION] An Answer to the World - Divorce and Single Parent Children

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Cobabe
Maggie Gallagher: By gutting the marital contract, no-fault divorce has transformed what it means to get married. The state will no longer enforce permanent legal commitments to a spouse. Formally, at least, no-fault divorce thus demotes marriage from a binding relation into something best

Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual

2004-03-09 Thread Rick Mathis
At 07:25 PM 3/9/2004, Bill wrote: She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She has, however, been going steady with a non-member for some eight years now. She has sworn she would not marry outside the temple, but I see no signs of either marriage or her dumping him. Her older sister's

Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual

2004-03-09 Thread Jonathan Scott
At 07:25 PM 3/9/2004, Bill wrote: She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She has, however, been going steady with a non-member for some eight years now. She has sworn she would not marry outside the temple, but I see no signs of either marriage or her dumping him. Her older sister's

Re: [ZION] Foreign Leaders Support Kerry

2004-03-09 Thread Jon Spencer
Get real. He said it (he just didn't identify whom it was who supported him - do you watch/follow the news at all?). Just like he put himself in for the Poiple Hearts. Just like he dragged photographers around with him to take his pictures when he was in Nam. A very humble man. Jon -

Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual

2004-03-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:25 PM 3/9/04, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Rick Mathis wrote: So, Bill, is she married? I have a 25 year old menace to society who doesn't seem to be making much movement in that direction. = Grampa answers. She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She