Re: [ZION] Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-04 Thread Geoff FOWLER
Merhaba! I think his real name was Mustafa Kemal, but don't quote me on that... Geoff >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/02 11:53PM >>> Atatürk, which was his popular name (offhand I believe his real name was something Mustafa -- I'd have to go check). But he'd taken military training in England at

[ZION] Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-04 Thread Geoff FOWLER
I guess it depends on whether or not you agree with his policies... :) Geoff >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/02 01:27PM >>> Is that the Turkish version of attaboy? Jon Geoff FOWLER wrote: Although, thanks to Ataturk, it should be easier for the Church in Turkey than in most other Islamic nations.

Re: [ZION] Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-03 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Atatürk, which was his popular name (offhand I believe his real name was something Mustafa -- I'd have to go check). But he'd taken military training in England at Sandhurst and came back to Turkey, in the 1920s, determined to modernize and secularize Turkey. Islamist (or any other religious) party

[ZION] Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-03 Thread Jon Spencer
Is that the Turkish version of attaboy? Jon Geoff FOWLER wrote: Although, thanks to Ataturk, it should be easier for the Church in Turkey than in most other Islamic nations. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at

Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-02 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I wouldn't read anything into the fact that he's Armenian. It's just that he has an Armenian name. But he considers himself a Turk -- "Anatolia" is not 100% homogeneous, but includes Greeks, Armenians, Kurds and some others, besides "real" Turks. There is no official missionary work there but there

RE: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-02 Thread Geoff FOWLER
A Mormon Armenian in Turkey? I wonder if most of the members there are either ex-Pats or other Christian peoples, as opposed to Turks. Although, thanks to Ataturk, it should be easier for the Church in Turkey than in most other Islamic nations. Geoff >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29/02 10:04PM >>>

Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-02 Thread Marc A. Schindler
There are 4 branches there which are part of either the Greece Athens or the Bulgaria Sofia Mission (I'm not sure which, but will know soon). This particular fellow emailed FAIR a year or so ago, asking for some apologetics help. I sent him my son's copy of "Guess Who Wants You for Lunch" and promi

RE: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-01 Thread Stacy Smith
I had no idea that the church existed in Turkey. Interesting, since my brother-in-law comes from there. Stacy. At 10:04 PM 11/29/2002 -0700, you wrote: Dear Br. Topakian, It was nice to hear from you again. I certainly hadn't forgotten about you. My son had read the book already while he was

RE: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Dear Br. Topakian, It was nice to hear from you again. I certainly hadn't forgotten about you. My son had read the book already while he was in Russia on his mission, but I want to get a replacement copy, and FAIR (www.fairlds.com) has reprinted them and I'll be able to order a copy soon. There ar