Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-14 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
happen to me? Just my two cents' worth... Heidi the fair [Original Message] From: Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/8/2003 4:32:27 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo The feelings then are still present today. I have been

Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-14 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
I didn't see the marriage thing as anything but that--but I'm not into conspiracy as many on this list are ;-). I was actually proud of little Dubyah that he had the guts to stand up for something like marriage. For me, I am glad to have heard the words, marriage is sacred spoken by the

Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
Valerie Nielsen Williams wrote: For me, I am glad to have heard the words, marriage is sacred spoken by the leader of our country (I wondered at that moment if he hadn't just gotten off the phone with Pres. Hinckley!). I agree that President Bush is either the most righteous man we have had for

Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-11 Thread Jon Spencer
John W. Redelfs wrote: I agree that President Bush is either the most righteous man we have had for President of the United States in modern times, or the biggest hypocrite. Time will tell. If he is a hypocrite, he has snookered a lot of really wonderful, good people. --JWR Why, thanks for

RE: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-10 Thread Rusty Taylor
More sophisticated? They like to think so, but they are just more worldly, and farther from the principles that lead to life. They will persecute us, using us (and other believers in Christ and Jews) as the scapegoats for the ills of the world. If only we would believe as they do, if only we

Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-10 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Valerie Nielsen Williams wrote: I don't think, though, that the persecution will have the backing of the government as it did in the days of Boggs. = Grampa Bill comments: I beg to disagree. I 'spect there are many in government, both elected and appointed,

Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-08 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
The feelings then are still present today. I have been to Nauvoo twice in the past year, and both times met up with people who absolutely hate us. I'm not sure they even know why they do, except it has been taught to them to hate. As I stood looking across the mighty Mississippi, I tried to

RE: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-08 Thread Jim Cobabe
Persecution against the Saints does not have to assume the same form as those overt violent acts against the Church in the Nauvoo period. Even more hateful and vindictive injustice was weighed against the Church after it was established in the Rocky Mountains. The extent of the bureacratic

Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo

2003-08-08 Thread hkpage
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/8/2003 4:32:27 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] The Exodus from Nauvoo The feelings then are still present today. I have been to Nauvoo twice in the past year, and both times met up with people who absolutely hate us. I'm not sure they even know why they do, except