Re: [ZION] The Small World of the Church

2003-11-16 Thread Doug McGee
Small world indeed. Just so happens that Val Williams lives in South Bend. Well, that's where my wife is from too. Turns out that she and Val were good friends in South Bend before I captured here and married her off here in Utah. I've never had the opportunity to meet Val but hope to one

[ZION] The Small World of the Church

2003-11-15 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
I just wanted to share with you all something really neat. You know, as members of the church, it doesn't matter where we are, if we are with fellow LDS, we have a lot to talk about. It makes the world a smaller place. Inevitably, someone you meet knows someone you know, and you feel a closer

Re: [ZION] The Small World of the Church

2003-11-15 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:50 AM 11/15/2003, Val wrote: I just wanted to share with you all something really neat. Val, Thanks for sharing--it helped brighten my day! -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] The overall performance of the college graduates in the Convention of 1787 speaks forcefully for the

Re: [ZION] The Small World of the Church

2003-11-15 Thread Rusty Taylor
Valerie-- what a great story! I think this would make a great thread-- The Small World of the Church. To start things off, here's one that just happened in our family. Our oldest son, Chuck, is serving in the Tennessee Nashville Mission and was just transfered to Clarksville TN where he got a new

RE: [ZION] The Small World of the Church

2003-11-15 Thread hkpage
That's just too neat of a story! A real day-brightener...thanks for sharing! Heidi the fair [Original Message] From: Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/15/2003 11:59:36 AM Subject: [ZION] The Small World of the Church I just wanted to share

[ZION] In the World

2002-11-19 Thread Gary Smith
Here are a few uses of the statement: Church members today are not a geographically or politically separate people; we are mingled among the people of the world—and for the Lord's purposes. So the prophetic counsel given is often to be individually applied, but it still requires the same

[ZION] In the World

2002-11-19 Thread Gary Smith
forties? Does moving out of the neighborhood mean moving to Provo? Does he just turn over his retirement checks to his bishop in fast offerings? I would personally prefer to live in Zion, not the world. However, until the rest of you get your act together and join me there, I'm forced to dwell

[ZION] In the World

2002-11-19 Thread Gary Smith
But it is possible. We may be sinners now, but the Lord has shown us that we can become perfected through Him. There are perfect men living on the earth right now. At one point, they were sinners and required the atonement of Christ to atone for those sins. Since then, they have achieved a level

[ZION] In the World

2002-11-18 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
OK, Zionisti, research time. In the world but not of it or something of it's ilk. What's the source of the saying? Till the questioning // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// ///

Re: [ZION] In the World

2002-11-18 Thread Marc A. Schindler
That's a darned good question. The Sufis use this saying (that's a mystical branch of Sunni Islam especially common in Egypt and Turkey), and it's also well known in Catholic and Mennonite traditions. My guess is that it came into creedal Christianity as an aphorism via Augustine, but that's a

Re: [ZION] In the World

2002-11-18 Thread Paul Osborne
It is possible to live in the world and not partake of the sins of the world. Ezra Taft Benson--Apr 1991 First Presidency Message Keys to Successful Member-Missionary Work No. It is not possible for any of us. We are all sinners. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ZION] In the World

2002-11-18 Thread Jim Cobabe
Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: --- In the world but not of it or something of it's ilk. What's the source of the saying? --- According to Nibley-- That is, when I find myself called upon to stand up and be counted, to declare myself on one side or the other, which do I prefer—gin or rum,