Re: [ZION] La Reconquista

2002-10-15 Thread Marc A. Schindler



Stephen Beecroft wrote:

> -Marc-
> > But since you're the one who's here to police our logic,
>
> That's rather unkind. Untrue, as well. I never pursue discussions for
> argument's sake alone. Never.

But you did say you felt you had a mandate to police my logic at one time. I'm
yanking your chain -- don't take this too seriously.

>
>
> > perhaps you could tell me when you picked up telepathy as a talent.
>
> A short book called _Telepathy through Reading_. I'm still working my
> way through it.
>
> > You might want to demand a refund on your tuition and
> > use that refund to take a quick mini-course on emoticons.
>
> No, I've largely (though not completely) foresworn emoticons as ersatz
> writing crutches. As in your "winky-smiley" example, I can't tell
> whether they mean "I sure am funny, huh?" or "Truth in jest, buddy!" or
> "Is anyone silly enough to believe this?" or something altogether
> different. So, unless the writing is obviously tongue-in-cheek or
> sarcastic, neither of which seemed to apply to yours, I tend to take it
> at face value.
>

That's the problem with email, though. The medium really is the message, and
email is ill-suited for subtlety and emotional shadings. That's why there are
often so many misunderstandings. So I *do* use emoticons, even though I know many
sophisticated users consider them unfashionable. But each to their own. I will
say that at least you write clearly and precisely, which helps very much.

>
> Stephen
>

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RE: [ZION] La Reconquista

2002-10-15 Thread Stephen Beecroft

-Marc-
> But since you're the one who's here to police our logic,

That's rather unkind. Untrue, as well. I never pursue discussions for 
argument's sake alone. Never.

> perhaps you could tell me when you picked up telepathy as a talent.

A short book called _Telepathy through Reading_. I'm still working my 
way through it.

> You might want to demand a refund on your tuition and
> use that refund to take a quick mini-course on emoticons.

No, I've largely (though not completely) foresworn emoticons as ersatz 
writing crutches. As in your "winky-smiley" example, I can't tell 
whether they mean "I sure am funny, huh?" or "Truth in jest, buddy!" or 
"Is anyone silly enough to believe this?" or something altogether 
different. So, unless the writing is obviously tongue-in-cheek or 
sarcastic, neither of which seemed to apply to yours, I tend to take it 
at face value.

Stephen

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Re: [ZION] La Reconquista

2002-10-14 Thread Marc A. Schindler



Stephen Beecroft wrote:

> -Gary-
> > look at how fluid the border with Mexico is.
>
> -Marc-
> > They are just taking back the land you took from them by force,
> > but they're using other means and are outsmarting you. It's
> > called La Reconquista. ;-)
>
> Obviously you think this is quite clever, since you've used this term
> several times in the past couple of weeks. Not sure what's so clever
> about it, though. You seem to make some assumptions that I'm not sure
> are valid.
>

I use it a lot -- I learned about it when I lived in California. But since you're
the one who's here to police our logic, perhaps you could tell me when you picked
up telepathy as a talent. You might want to demand a refund on your tuition and
use that refund to take a quick mini-course on emoticons.

>

Boy, I hit a nerve. Shoulda been a dentist. I could've been, too. I could've been
a real contender.

> Stephen
>

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[ZION] La Reconquista

2002-10-14 Thread Stephen Beecroft

-Gary-
> look at how fluid the border with Mexico is.

-Marc-
> They are just taking back the land you took from them by force,
> but they're using other means and are outsmarting you. It's
> called La Reconquista. ;-)

Obviously you think this is quite clever, since you've used this term 
several times in the past couple of weeks. Not sure what's so clever 
about it, though. You seem to make some assumptions that I'm not sure 
are valid.

You say that "they are just taking back the land you took from them by 
force". Who constitutes "you"? Gary? Europeans? White people? Americans? 
Who exactly are "them"? American aborigines? I don't think any of them 
are still alive. Their descendants? Brown-skinned people of American 
Indian and Hispanic descent? They're still here. Mexicans? Which nation? 
"By force"? How about the lands bought, e.g. Utah lands? What are the 
international laws (heh, heh) regarding land seized in warfare? Since 
the Lamanites took the land from the people of the covenant, does that 
mean if I "reconquisto" lands around New York, I'm just taking back 
what's rightfully mine? How about if I "take back" lands around Nauvoo 
or Independence?

At best, this is a ham-fisted oversimplification of the variety you 
often take pleasure in picking apart. At worst, it's an attempt to 
represent as indefensible things like national security and border 
patrolling.

Or maybe you're just "tweaking" us again. Ha ha, lots of fun, though it 
does tend to increase communication noise. I can't tell when you're 
serious and when you're just going for yuks.

Stephen

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