Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-24 Thread Geoff FOWLER
>>> Gary favored us with: >Are the Republican House and Senate >not right now discussing issues to stop >? They may be talking about it, but unless something is actually done, and laws are passed and enforced, then it doesn't make the world any safer for the innocents. Geoff -- [Non-text por

[ZION] Moral War

2003-01-24 Thread Gerald Smith
I see Captain Moroni also living in such a time. He was fighting a corrupt government, but his cause was still just. You'll note that Pahoran was kicked out of power for a time, but the government was recovered (though never quite the same afteward). There's a good possibility that some corruption

[ZION] Moral War

2003-01-24 Thread George Cobabe
John, et al, - as you can see I have tried to be more complete, in my answers than perhaps you acknowledge. In fact I have made some modifications to your list of understanding. Read the following from a previous post and then my comments at the end of this post. I would be interested in where w

Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-24 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 10:56 1/23/2003 -0900, BLT wrote: Fundamental principle: Self-defense is OK. Everything else is unlawful. 1) We defend ourselves even if it means shedding blood. 2) We never give offense. 3) We never fight except to preserve our lives. 4) We only fight when God commands us to fight. I do

Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
George Cobabe favored us with: John, I am willing to answer, and defend, but first answer the question that we have been discussing. Are we in "general" agreement as to what constitutes a Moral War? If so then we can apply the test and come up with a satisfactory conclusion. If not, then why bot

Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread George Cobabe
ill not be possible! George - Original Message - From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Moral War > George Cobabe favored us with: > >The question was asked by one, i

Re: [ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
George Cobabe favored us with: The question was asked by one, is it not possible for both sides to fight a moral war? No, it is not!!! We must only fight after we have done all we can to prevent a war. If both sides are trying to do this, war will not occur. Moral action by both parties wil

[ZION] Moral War

2003-01-23 Thread George Cobabe
John W. Redelfs suggested the following as a general description of Moral War. "We are people of peace. We are followers of the Christ who was and is the Prince of Peace. But there are times when we must stand up for right and decency, for freedom and civilization, just as Moroni rallied his peopl