I see Captain Moroni also living in such a time. He was fighting a corrupt government, but his cause was still just. You'll note that Pahoran was kicked out of power for a time, but the government was recovered (though never quite the same afteward). There's a good possibility that some corruption remained in their government even after Moroni kicked the kingmen into prison. There were lower judges doing corrupt things, even while the main judge was righteous, and vice versa. We can't paint the Nephite government with such a broad stroke of whiteness, when we know there is no such thing as a perfect government without perfect people.
Our nation has problems, but there are many good people trying to regain power over the government to return it to righteousness. Would you not agree that GWBush is a better man than Clinton? Are the Republican House and Senate not right now discussing issues to stop partial birth abortion? We don't read about gambling, or pornography in the BoM, though I'm sure they were there. Alcohol was used in Moroni's battles, both against the Lamanites, but also the Nephite armies drank (they tested their alcohol on their prisoners). Moroni fought a moral war, even when his government was corrupt. In fact, it was the corrupt faction that sought to end the warring with treaties. Something to think about. K'aya K'ama, Gerald (Gary) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html LDS Evidences, Family History, Food Storage, etc. JWR: I think we are in general agreement about what constitutes a moral war, but I'm not certain. We seem to read Alma 48 differently. Both you and Gary seem to see both Captain Moroni and George W. Bush as the guys with the white hats, and Saddam Hussein and Iraq as the guys with the black hats. For me, I don't see how the USA can be the white hats as long as it has legalized pornography, gambling, adultery, sodomy, abortion, alcohol use, and the socialistic redistribution of the wealth. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: firstname.lastname@example.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^================================================================