Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-18 Thread Marc A. Schindler


"John W. Redelfs" wrote:

> It would have been nice if you had joined me in my protest, Marc.  I don't
> remember hearing a peep from you.  There is a bishop in my stake who is a
> longtime Mormon-L-er, and he didn't say anything either.  Bob Westover
> didn't say anything either.  I wasn't so disgusted with Richard Russell's
> blasphemy.  I expected as much from him.  But the lack of protest persuaded
> me that I had no place on the list.  I was truly offended by the lack of
> protest. You know what would have happened if someone had said something
> negative about D. Michael Quinn.
>
> Aw... nevermind.  It is all ancient history.

Well, I guess we remember it differently. But my style on Mormon-L, where I kind
of considered myself a self-appointed "home teacher" in the same sense I am
responsible for the "no contacts" in our ward* is such that I wasn't going to come
out and call people blasphemers or whatever, but I distinctly remember asking that
people observe the golden rule; that just as they didn't like some of your
characterizations of liberals, they, too, should show some respect and common
decency. Also, as I recall, it was RR who made the remark, I believe it was PB.
But I could be mistaken. Probably neither one of us cares enough about it to
search Mormon-L's archives.

And I also remember on more than one occasion writing exactly, "I'm with John on
this one," although I can't remember offhand what the issues were at the time. And
I wasn't the only one -- there were other "TBM's" there, too. Some didn't stick
around very long, mind you.

I'm not on Mormon-L anymore in any case; I cut back a lot of my Internet activity
for various reasons, but mostly because of my health.

*so what does a "no contact" home teacher do? He sends out monthly newsletters,
with a bit of eye-catching news to get their interest (say, like about Burton
Cummings) and adds a spiritual message (my last one was from a book by Sis.
Ozaki).

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-18 Thread John W. Redelfs
Marc A. Schindler favored us with:

> Stacy Smith favored us with:
> >Well, I'd like to know just how many such lists there are.  Judging from
> >other lists on other subjects, there must be hundreds out there.
>
> For a while I was the Open Directory Project editor in charge of listing
> the LDS email discussion lists.  There are 274 listed at the moment, but
> few that generate enough traffic to actually sustain a
> conversation.  Probably the most active of all LDS lists is Mormon-L.  But
> it is not exactly a faith promoting experience.  A couple of years ago I
> promised I would never again participate there.  I made the decision after
> a list member referred to Boyd KKK Packer.  That didn't disgust me so much
> as the fact that no one on the list seemed outraged by it but myself.
>

Not "no one", actually. ;-)


It would have been nice if you had joined me in my protest, Marc.  I don't 
remember hearing a peep from you.  There is a bishop in my stake who is a 
longtime Mormon-L-er, and he didn't say anything either.  Bob Westover 
didn't say anything either.  I wasn't so disgusted with Richard Russell's 
blasphemy.  I expected as much from him.  But the lack of protest persuaded 
me that I had no place on the list.  I was truly offended by the lack of 
protest. You know what would have happened if someone had said something 
negative about D. Michael Quinn.

Aw... nevermind.  It is all ancient history.


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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-18 Thread Marc A. Schindler


"John W. Redelfs" wrote:

> Stacy Smith favored us with:
> >Well, I'd like to know just how many such lists there are.  Judging from
> >other lists on other subjects, there must be hundreds out there.
>
> For a while I was the Open Directory Project editor in charge of listing
> the LDS email discussion lists.  There are 274 listed at the moment, but
> few that generate enough traffic to actually sustain a
> conversation.  Probably the most active of all LDS lists is Mormon-L.  But
> it is not exactly a faith promoting experience.  A couple of years ago I
> promised I would never again participate there.  I made the decision after
> a list member referred to Boyd KKK Packer.  That didn't disgust me so much
> as the fact that no one on the list seemed outraged by it but myself.
>

Not "no one", actually. ;-)

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-18 Thread John W. Redelfs
Rick Mathis favored us with:

At 05:39 AM 12/17/2002 -0700, George wrote:

Boy - you lost me there - are you asking about abilities (to argue) or the
size of bullets (so as to end the argument)?


Yes.


I am in love with my Kalishnikov, 7.62x39mm.  It is Chinese made and the 
sweetest weapon I've ever gone plinking with.  Not only that, it was cheap, 
only a little more than my unfired SKS which only cost me 70 dollars.  --JWR

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-18 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stacy Smith favored us with:

Well, I'd like to know just how many such lists there are.  Judging from 
other lists on other subjects, there must be hundreds out there.

For a while I was the Open Directory Project editor in charge of listing 
the LDS email discussion lists.  There are 274 listed at the moment, but 
few that generate enough traffic to actually sustain a 
conversation.  Probably the most active of all LDS lists is Mormon-L.  But 
it is not exactly a faith promoting experience.  A couple of years ago I 
promised I would never again participate there.  I made the decision after 
a list member referred to Boyd KKK Packer.  That didn't disgust me so much 
as the fact that no one on the list seemed outraged by it but myself.

Check out 
http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Christianity/Denominations/Latter-day_Saints/Mailing_Lists/


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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Stacy Smith
That's probably a very good guy and not the one I'm referring to.  I know 
of two Wrights, one I would love to see again and one I wish to forget.

Stacy.

At 09:41 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:

We have a Brother Wright in our ward.  He is a Special Forces sniper.

Could he help out here?

Jon

Stacy Smith wrote:

> Just so long as that other guy named Wright doesn't come along.  Well, I'm
> sure you'll look out for him.  He might be trouble.
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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Chet

Stacy Smith wrote:
> Luckily even the other list I'm on doesn't have this guy.  Not yet, 
> anyway.  Can a person really protect herself on the internet?  An 
> ex-boyfriend even found me on a certain list.  I'm beginning to think 
> that 
> if I don't want to be found by certain people I shouldn't be on any 
> lists 
> at all.

You can, of course, limit the amount of information you provide to lists 
-- such as your real name, etc.  But the internet just makes a little 
easier what's been true since at least the 1960s, and that's that there 
is no true privacy anymore.  The only hope for privacy is that there is 
so MUCH information available that one's individual data becomes 
difficult to sort out from the surrounding "white noise."

We now view old movies and certain TV shows such as *the Fugitive* as 
charming, and remember when one could get a job and rent a home without 
severe background checks.


*jeep!
  --Chet
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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 17:53 12/17/2002 +, Sir Chester wrote:


You proceed from a false assumption.  A football doesn't HAVE feathers.




Certainly not in the same respect that horses and gophers do.


Till who used to hate gopher feathers in his orange juice when he was a 
little tyke

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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Chet

Stacy Smith wrote:
> Yes, I like those funny jokes too.  

As opposed to the jokes I usually tell.


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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Chet

George Cobabe wrote:
> You are saying WHAT is right?  I thought Wright was wrong?
> 
> If Wright is What, then who is wrong?
> 
> Is that right, or is George wrong?  And if that is the case it will be
> necessary to start all over again.  Could that be right, wright. or 
> wrong?

You proceed from a false assumption.  A football doesn't HAVE feathers.


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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Rick Mathis
At 05:39 AM 12/17/2002 -0700, George wrote:

Boy - you lost me there - are you asking about abilities (to argue) or the
size of bullets (so as to end the argument)?


Yes.

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Jon Spencer
We have a Brother Wright in our ward.  He is a Special Forces sniper.

Could he help out here?

Jon

Stacy Smith wrote:

> Just so long as that other guy named Wright doesn't come along.  Well, I'm
> sure you'll look out for him.  He might be trouble.
>
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> At 09:16 PM 12/16/2002 -0600, you wrote:
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> >
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 05:43 12/17/2002 -0700, Gib Egroeg wrote:

I was trying not to let it happen, but I think you topped everyone and
surely had the last word on this.

George

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Beecroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy


> -George-
> > Could that be right, wright. or wrong?
>
> The "W" should be capitalized. Write "Wright" right. (But don't fixate
> on it to the point that you feel compelled to do so, or you'll find
> yourself performing the "Write 'Wright' right" rite.)
>
> Stephen



St Stephen is usually at the top of such things, which implies, fortunately 
for us, that he is not topless.  It could even be said that he is somewhat 
of a ghastly, ghostly topper here, which sounds a lot like tauper,** which 
leads us to a taper, which will help to light the way to the old Tipper, so 
trip-her to stop-her before she "gores" somebody and we wind up with a 
stiffer for a Staufer-stuffer and have no time to peruse the troper from 
the proper roper-biker* tipping precariously at the top of the stairs.

Till the ever clarifying (butter)

** do you need a chat with your bishop, Stephen?***

***  this, of course, being three "Schindllers"  as opposed  to the 
other one which is only two

 which is not to be confused with the opposing sore thumb*

*  which leads us back to Sir Scott's sore bum from two completely 
independent and irrelevant directions, proving inconclusively that life IS 
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread George Cobabe
Boy - you lost me there - are you asking about abilities (to argue) or the
size of bullets (so as to end the argument)?

George

- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy


> At 09:16 PM 12/16/2002 -0600, Paul wrote:
> >Hi George,
> >
> >I'm glad you came to the Zion list. I have enjoyed your postings at FAIR.
> >I'm sure you will find the Zion list to be a place of refuge. Sometimes
> >we argue a little but we learn so much.
>
> So, George, what's your favourite calibre?
>
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread George Cobabe
I was trying not to let it happen, but I think you topped everyone and
surely had the last word on this.

George

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Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy


> -George-
> > Could that be right, wright. or wrong?
>
> The "W" should be capitalized. Write "Wright" right. (But don't fixate
> on it to the point that you feel compelled to do so, or you'll find
> yourself performing the "Write 'Wright' right" rite.)
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> Stephen
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 21:16 12/16/2002 -0600, St Paul not Minnesota wrote:

 I've only been here a couple years and they
haven't thrown me out yet. 



Notice carefully the "yet"


8>))

Till

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread George Cobabe
Jim and I share a grandfather.  His dad, Bill is brother to my dad, George.
We are currently in the habit of getting together once a year with our
Cobabe Cousins whom we correspond with on  a CobabeCousins email list owned
by Jim.

We have a lot of cousins and if anyone should ever run into a Cobabe they
will, for sure be a cousin, as there are no others around.  We all look
alike so there will be little doubt as to the relationship, that is, of
course, if you know us off list.

There is a family of CoBabe (including a prominent paleontologist who named
a dinosaur CoBabe something or other) not directly related and some Kobabe
in Canada not directly related, but both go back to the same region in
Germany so must hook up somewhere.  There is in Ogden a family of Cobabe,
but they had only daughters so the name will not continue there.  He, Alvin,
is a first cousin, once removed, from Jim and me.

The Cobabes settled in Ogden and Morgan county in the 1850's as Mormon
immigrants.  Our grandfather moved to Los Angeles in the 1930's and the
family now identifies with the South Bay area (the Beach Cities) of Los
Angeles as "home"

That likely told you more than you really wanted to know.

George


- Original Message -
From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy


> George Cobabe favored us with:
> >I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its
description
> >it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to
discuss
> >without rancor.
>
> Well, there are moments of rancor, but like a faithful family we try to
> keep it to a minimum.
>
> >I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage
in
> >the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be
earned
> >just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many
times
> >over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and
eight
> >beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council
and
> >loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the
world.
>
> So tell us how you are related to Jim.  Any friend or family of Jim Cobabe
> is a friend of mine.
>
> >I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
> >first messages from you.
>
> We are glad to have you among us.  I hope we live up to your lofty
> expectations.  If not, consider it an exercise in Christlike forgiveness.
>
>
> John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Church members in their personal and family study. We
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-17 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Laura Maery Post has put out two editions of "Mormons on the Internet" (I have
copies of each), and that's a good hardcopy source, although as she readily admits,
it gets outdated pretty quickly.

Stacy Smith wrote:

> Well, I'd like to know just how many such lists there are.  Judging from
> other lists on other subjects, there must be hundreds out there.
>
> Stacy.
>
> At 05:45 PM 12/16/2002 -0900, you wrote:
>
> >George Cobabe favored us with:
> >>I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its description
> >>it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to discuss
> >>without rancor.
> >
> >Well, there are moments of rancor, but like a faithful family we try to
> >keep it to a minimum.
> >
> >>I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage in
> >>the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be earned
> >>just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many times
> >>over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and eight
> >>beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council and
> >>loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the world.
> >
> >So tell us how you are related to Jim.  Any friend or family of Jim Cobabe
> >is a friend of mine.
> >
> >>I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
> >>first messages from you.
> >
> >We are glad to have you among us.  I hope we live up to your lofty
> >expectations.  If not, consider it an exercise in Christlike forgiveness.
> >
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> >a man "nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
Well, I'd like to know just how many such lists there are.  Judging from 
other lists on other subjects, there must be hundreds out there.

Stacy.

At 05:45 PM 12/16/2002 -0900, you wrote:

George Cobabe favored us with:

I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its description
it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to discuss
without rancor.


Well, there are moments of rancor, but like a faithful family we try to 
keep it to a minimum.

I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage in
the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be earned
just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many times
over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and eight
beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council and
loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the world.


So tell us how you are related to Jim.  Any friend or family of Jim Cobabe 
is a friend of mine.

I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
first messages from you.


We are glad to have you among us.  I hope we live up to your lofty 
expectations.  If not, consider it an exercise in Christlike forgiveness.


John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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four-year pattern, however, must not be followed by
Church members in their personal and family study. We
need to read daily from the pages of the book that will get
a man "nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
No real worries about anyone on the list right now.

Stacy.

At 05:47 PM 12/16/2002 -0900, you wrote:


Stacy Smith favored us with:

I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I 
would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What 
should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?

Write private email to John W. Redelfs or Gary Smith, the two 
listowners.  Share your worries with them in private.  They are the only 
ones with the list password, and hence the only ones that can solve the 
problem.


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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
Luckily even the other list I'm on doesn't have this guy.  Not yet, 
anyway.  Can a person really protect herself on the internet?  An 
ex-boyfriend even found me on a certain list.  I'm beginning to think that 
if I don't want to be found by certain people I shouldn't be on any lists 
at all.

Stacy.

At 11:38 PM 12/16/2002 -0600, you wrote:

First off, welcome to George, whom I am acquainted with on another list.

Second, to answer Stacy:  JWR and I keep an eye on things here. If you
see or hear something that concerns you, let us know in private email and
we'll look into it. I've personally checked George Cobabe's financial
investments out,while JWR is checking on his past sordid high school
history. We'll let you know what we find, as we'll publish his tax
returns shortly on the website  

And George was hoping this wasn't a friendly list!

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Stacy:
I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I
would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What
should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?

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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
Yes, I like those funny jokes too.  I was being serious but I don't mind 
the jokes.

Stacy.

At 11:31 PM 12/16/2002 +, you wrote:

Who's on first.  What's on second.  New Guy must the name of the
outfielder whose name I never got.

Larry Jackson

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NO - that is wrong - the wrong one is Wright! THAT is right!
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[ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Gary Smith
First off, welcome to George, whom I am acquainted with on another list.

Second, to answer Stacy:  JWR and I keep an eye on things here. If you
see or hear something that concerns you, let us know in private email and
we'll look into it. I've personally checked George Cobabe's financial
investments out,while JWR is checking on his past sordid high school
history. We'll let you know what we find, as we'll publish his tax
returns shortly on the website  

And George was hoping this wasn't a friendly list!

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I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I 
would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What 
should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?
 
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
Just so long as that other guy named Wright doesn't come along.  Well, I'm 
sure you'll look out for him.  He might be trouble.

Stacy.

At 09:16 PM 12/16/2002 -0600, you wrote:

Hi George,

I'm glad you came to the Zion list. I have enjoyed your postings at FAIR.
I'm sure you will find the Zion list to be a place of refuge. Sometimes
we argue a little but we learn so much. This is a list where members
really care about each other. I've only been here a couple years and they
haven't thrown me out yet. 

Again, welcome.

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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-George-
> Could that be right, wright. or wrong?

The "W" should be capitalized. Write "Wright" right. (But don't fixate 
on it to the point that you feel compelled to do so, or you'll find 
yourself performing the "Write 'Wright' right" rite.)

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Rick Mathis
At 09:16 PM 12/16/2002 -0600, Paul wrote:

Hi George,

I'm glad you came to the Zion list. I have enjoyed your postings at FAIR.
I'm sure you will find the Zion list to be a place of refuge. Sometimes
we argue a little but we learn so much.


So, George, what's your favourite calibre?

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread George Cobabe
You are saying WHAT is right?  I thought Wright was wrong?

If Wright is What, then who is wrong?

Is that right, or is George wrong?  And if that is the case it will be
necessary to start all over again.  Could that be right, wright. or wrong?

George

- Original Message -
From: "Chet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy


> George Cobabe wrote:
> > NO - that is wrong - the wrong one is Wright! THAT is right!
> >
> > Who's on second?
>
> OK, once more -- it's WHAT on second.  Who is on first.  Don't mess
> around with the infield.
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Stacy Smith wrote:
> > > > Not you.  I'll take you any day over this other character.  His last
> > > > name
> > > > is Wright.
> > >
> > > So Wright is wrong.  I'll have to remember that.
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stacy Smith favored us with:

I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I 
would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What 
should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?

Write private email to John W. Redelfs or Gary Smith, the two 
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread John W. Redelfs
George Cobabe favored us with:

I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its description
it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to discuss
without rancor.


Well, there are moments of rancor, but like a faithful family we try to 
keep it to a minimum.

I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage in
the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be earned
just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many times
over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and eight
beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council and
loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the world.


So tell us how you are related to Jim.  Any friend or family of Jim Cobabe 
is a friend of mine.

I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
first messages from you.


We are glad to have you among us.  I hope we live up to your lofty 
expectations.  If not, consider it an exercise in Christlike forgiveness.


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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread George Cobabe
Thank you, Paul.  I have learned that you are a good one to have in a
corner.

George

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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy


> Hi George,
>
> I'm glad you came to the Zion list. I have enjoyed your postings at FAIR.
> I'm sure you will find the Zion list to be a place of refuge. Sometimes
> we argue a little but we learn so much. This is a list where members
> really care about each other. I've only been here a couple years and they
> haven't thrown me out yet. 
>
> Again, welcome.
>
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Paul Osborne
Hi George,

I'm glad you came to the Zion list. I have enjoyed your postings at FAIR.
I'm sure you will find the Zion list to be a place of refuge. Sometimes
we argue a little but we learn so much. This is a list where members
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haven't thrown me out yet. 

Again, welcome.

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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Chet
George Cobabe wrote:
> NO - that is wrong - the wrong one is Wright! THAT is right!
> 
> Who's on second?

OK, once more -- it's WHAT on second.  Who is on first.  Don't mess 
around with the infield.

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> Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy
> 
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> >
> > Stacy Smith wrote:
> > > Not you.  I'll take you any day over this other character.  His last
> > > name
> > > is Wright.
> >
> > So Wright is wrong.  I'll have to remember that.

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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Larry Jackson
Who's on first.  What's on second.  New Guy must the name of the 
outfielder whose name I never got.

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread George Cobabe
Stacy - we know for sure.  Jim is able to determine pretty close.

George

- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy


> But you don't know for sure?  Interesting.
>
> Stacy.
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread George Cobabe
NO - that is wrong - the wrong one is Wright! THAT is right!

Who's on second?

George

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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy


>
> Stacy Smith wrote:
> > Not you.  I'll take you any day over this other character.  His last
> > name
> > is Wright.
>
> So Wright is wrong.  I'll have to remember that.
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Jon Spencer
It's you last name.  :-)

Noj

George Cobabe wrote:

> Geez, I am brand new and the first message wants to know what to do about
> the new guy.  :-) What did I do to arouse such a reaction. :-)

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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
But you don't know for sure?  Interesting.

Stacy.

At 08:34 PM 12/16/2002 +, you wrote:




Hi George!  Nice to see your sig here, welcome to the Zion list.  I have
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Near as I can determine, George and I seem to be cousins--which probably
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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Jim Cobabe


Hi George!  Nice to see your sig here, welcome to the Zion list.  I have 
found it to be a great refuge from the sanity of the world.  ;-)

Near as I can determine, George and I seem to be cousins--which probably 
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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Chet

Stacy Smith wrote:
> Not you.  I'll take you any day over this other character.  His last 
> name 
> is Wright.  

So Wright is wrong.  I'll have to remember that.


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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
Not you.  I'll take you any day over this other character.  His last name 
is Wright.  I'm not sure what to do if he decides to come on this 
list.  See, what I'm worried about is a cyberstalker.

Stacy.

At 11:12 AM 12/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:

Geez, I am brand new and the first message wants to know what to do about
the new guy.  :-) What did I do to arouse such a reaction. :-)

George

- Original Message -
From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy


> I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I
> would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What
> should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?
>
> Stacy.
>
> At 11:01 AM 12/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its
description
> >it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to
discuss
> >without rancor.
> >
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in
> >the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be
earned
> >just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many
times
> >over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and
eight
> >beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council
and
> >loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the
world.
> >
> >I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
> >first messages from you.
> >
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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
Fortunately, no one is of that caliber here.  But I do have to warn the 
list:  Someone may be trying to chase me and that is bad.

Stacy.

At 06:30 PM 12/16/2002 +, you wrote:


Stacy Smith wrote:
> I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I
>
> would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What
> should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?

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Re:Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Val
Don't take it personal, George,   It's probably your last name. . .;-)  Can this list 
handle another Cobabe?? :-o

your sis in Mishawaka, IN
val

-- George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Geez, I am brand new and the first message wants to know what to do about
the new guy.  :-) What did I do to arouse such a reaction. :-)

George

- Original Message -
From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy


> I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I
> would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What
> should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?
>
> Stacy.
>
> At 11:01 AM 12/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its
description
> >it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to
discuss
> >without rancor.
> >
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in
> >the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be
earned
> >just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many
times
> >over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and
eight
> >beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council
and
> >loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the
world.
> >
> >I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
> >first messages from you.
> >
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> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Hey, George! Howyadoin'? Welcome to the list. You may see some familiar
cyber-faces here.

George Cobabe wrote:

> I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its description
> it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to discuss
> without rancor.
>
> I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage in
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> just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many times
> over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and eight
> beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council and
> loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the world.
>
> I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
> first messages from you.
>
> George Cobabe, CLU, ChFC
> Ogden, Utah
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RE: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Chet

Stacy Smith wrote:
> I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I 
> 
> would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What 
> should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?

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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread George Cobabe
Geez, I am brand new and the first message wants to know what to do about
the new guy.  :-) What did I do to arouse such a reaction. :-)

George

- Original Message -
From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy


> I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I
> would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What
> should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?
>
> Stacy.
>
> At 11:01 AM 12/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its
description
> >it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to
discuss
> >without rancor.
> >
> >I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage
in
> >the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be
earned
> >just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many
times
> >over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and
eight
> >beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council
and
> >loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the
world.
> >
> >I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
> >first messages from you.
> >
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> >Ogden, Utah
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Re: [ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread Stacy Smith
I'm always glad to see new people, even people I might recognize.  But I 
would be worried if I saw someone I didn't like or want to see.  What 
should I do if I should ever see someone suspicious on here?

Stacy.

At 11:01 AM 12/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:

I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its description
it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to discuss
without rancor.

I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage in
the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be earned
just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many times
over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and eight
beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council and
loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the world.

I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
first messages from you.

George Cobabe, CLU, ChFC
Ogden, Utah
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[ZION] New guy

2002-12-16 Thread George Cobabe
I am glad to be one of the newest member of this list.  By its description
it is what I have been looking for - a list of LDS faithful ready to discuss
without rancor.

I live in Ogden and have been a member all of my life and with a heritage in
the church back to the 1830's.  But the testimony I enjoy had to be earned
just like the newest member and in my case it has been received many times
over. I am married to the lovely Sylvia and we have five children and eight
beautiful grandchildren.  Currently on the Ogden University High Council and
loving it.  The kids you send to Weber State are the greatest in the world.

I hope that I am right about the list - I look forward to receiving the
first messages from you.

George Cobabe, CLU, ChFC
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