Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-21 Thread Marc A. Schindler
er, equal to many other Gods, > but not subservient to Law. > > George > > - Original Message - > From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural L

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-21 Thread George Cobabe
not subservient to Law. George - Original Message - From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law But I don't agree that we're under any compulsion wh

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-21 Thread Marc A. Schindler
gt; George > > - Original Message - > From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law > > George Cobabe wrote: > > > You are absolutely right. Ho

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread George Cobabe
powerful than God, even law. George - Original Message - From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law George Cobabe wrote: > You are absolutely right. However we

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread Jon Spencer
Stephen Beecroft wrote: >He's also the teacher who effectively pointed out that >we do indeed believe in salvation by grace, despite what many Latter-day >Saints mistakenly believe and even teach. "Many" LDSers? "Many?" Maybe in your neck of the woods, but not down here is the Solid South. Wh

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 00:50 12/20/2002 -0900, the venerable BLT wrote: There is a law which God must obey, one that is above him. Call it "natural law" or anything else you like. Because mankind is at an infantile stage of development compared with God, we probably don't even know what the laws are by which Go

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread Marc A. Schindler
re is a > higher power, even law, than God is an inconsistency in the doctrine of > those that believe such a thing. IMNSHO > > George > > - Original Message - > From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursda

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread George Cobabe
mple as I suggest. Forgive > me of my indiscretion if my words give offense. > > George > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Cobabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:31 PM > Subject: RE: [ZION]

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread John W. Redelfs
George Cobabe favored us with: Furthermore, if Natural Law is the great constant and above God, then it is the law we should worship. Natural Law is a concept, something intangible but real. God is a person. It is very hard to worship intangible concepts. The traditional Christian world has

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-19 Thread Marc A. Schindler
my indiscretion if my words give offense. > > George > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Cobabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:31 PM > Subject: RE: [ZION] Natural Law > > > > > A

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-19 Thread George Cobabe
Opps, I meant to say: "Those who argue there is a Law *above* our God need ..." George - Original Message - From: "George Cobabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law >

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-19 Thread George Cobabe
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] Natural Law > > Another interesting reference to this question-- > > God is the author of law, not its creation or its servant. All light and > all law emanate from him (see D&a

RE: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-19 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stephen Beecroft favored us with: He's also the teacher who effectively pointed out that we do indeed believe in salvation by grace, despite what many Latter-day Saints mistakenly believe and even teach. Of course we believe in salvation by grace. The Protestant heresy that we repudiate is sal

RE: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread Jim Cobabe
Another interesting reference to this question-- God is the author of law, not its creation or its servant. All light and all law emanate from him (see D&C 88:13). Indeed, "all kingdoms have a law given; and there are many kingdoms; for there is no space in the which there is no kingdom; and t

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread Marc A. Schindler
They are all duly queued, waiting merely to be cued... Stephen Beecroft wrote: > Ah, well. Cue the violins. At least I know how to spell > carob-beans.) > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland “Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lu

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread George Cobabe
ephen Beecroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] Natural Law > -George- > > Much of what is quoted by Sis Black is from a paper by LaMar > > Garrard, "God, Natural Law, and the Doctrine and Co

RE: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-George- > Much of what is quoted by Sis Black is from a paper by LaMar > Garrard, "God, Natural Law, and the Doctrine and Covenants" Brother Garrard may well have been my wife's and my favorite teacher at BYU, even though we only ever had him for one class. When he came in the first day, I thou