Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Tim Peters wrote: ... As Jim said, there's some not-fully-baked "persistent module" stuff in Zope3. It was difficult to get that to work at all, and apparently nobody wants it enough to keep working on it. For now. I definately consider this an important part of Zope's future. It is also the

[ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Spencer
Tim Peters wrote: [Chris Spencer] [...] I'm fully aware of Pickle's limitations. My question was why are you accepting them? Regardless of topic, the answer to that question is usually "although I don't have time for it in any case, if I did I can think of 100 other things likely to have bet

RE: [ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Tim Peters
[Chris Spencer] [...] > I'm fully aware of Pickle's limitations. My question was why are you > accepting them? Regardless of topic, the answer to that question is usually "although I don't have time for it in any case, if I did I can think of 100 other things likely to have better payoff" <0.5 win

[ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Spencer
Michel Pelletier wrote: However your question of loading code from a remote location is valid, and another Python remote object system (Pyro) that can be configured, with some restrictions, to load code over the network: http://pyro.sourceforge.net/ in particular, see the section on "mobile

[ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Chris Spencer
Jim Fulton wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 13. Oktober 2005 02:54:51 -0400 Chris Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But what if the client doesn't know what sources it's supposed to have? What if it only has a limited understanding of the objects, and needs to load certain objects on the ser

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: ... Sorry, this is a stupid assumption. No. It was an incorrect assumption. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com

[ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Michel Pelletier
Chris Spencer wrote: I noticed that if a ZEOServer client doesn't have the definition for an object's class, it loads it as a broken object. Is there any way to fix the broken object by obtaining the class source from the server? Others have commented on the status quo that your client must co

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. Oktober 2005 02:54:51 -0400 Chris Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But what if the client doesn't know what sources it's supposed to have? What if it only has a limited understanding of the objects, and needs to load certain objects on the server from scratch. Is this really a n

[ZODB-Dev] Re: Fixing Broken Objects?

2005-10-12 Thread Chris Spencer
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 13. Oktober 2005 01:45:30 -0400 Chris Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I noticed that if a ZEOServer client doesn't have the definition for an object's class, it loads it as a broken object. Is there any way to fix the broken object by obtaining the class source f