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Aran Dunkley wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> It's looking like Plone/ZODB would need too much modification and
> testing at the current time to move in to P2P.
Neither Plone nor ZODB require modifications. You need a cloud-aware
storage suitable to be used as
Hi guys,
It's looking like Plone/ZODB would need too much modification and
testing at the current time to move in to P2P.
The most promising environment in our research so far are frameworks
built on the Squeak language which is used by the OpenCobalt project (a
P2P collaborative 3D world).
Than
On 01/03/2011 10:23 PM, Aran Dunkley wrote:
> Hi, I'm part of a development team who are helping an organisation to
> architect a CMS based project that they want to work in a P2P network
> rather than using a centralised web-server. We'd prefer to use an
> existing popular CMS as a starting point
I'm not very optimistic about this I'm afraid. First the problems with
using Plone:
* Plone relies heavily on its in ZODB indexes of all content
(portal_catalog). This means that every edit will change lots of
objects (without versioning ~15-20, most of which are in the
catalogue).
* At least w
Am 04.01.2011, 12:40 Uhr, schrieb Aran Dunkley :
> Thanks for the feedback Vincent :-) it sounds like NEO is pretty close
> to being SQL-free. As one of the NEO team, what are your thoughts on the
> practicality of running Plone in a P2P environment with the latencies
> experienced in standard DHT
Thanks for the feedback Vincent :-) it sounds like NEO is pretty close
to being SQL-free. As one of the NEO team, what are your thoughts on the
practicality of running Plone in a P2P environment with the latencies
experienced in standard DHT (such as for example those based on
Kademlia) implemtatio
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Marc Villemade wrote:
> Hey Andreas,
>
> I don't know much about Aran's project, so you are right to wonder the
> necessity to have yet another storage backend.
> Maybe he has needs and requirements that can't be fulfilled by the current
> backends.
I have looked at NEO which is the closest thing I've found to the
answer, in fact NEO is why I felt Plone was the best choice of CMS to
inquire further about
The problem is that it uses SQL for its indexing queries (they quote
"NoSQL" as meaning "Not only SQL"). SQL cannot work in P2P space, but
c
Hey Andreas,
I don't know much about Aran's project, so you are right to wonder the
necessity to have yet another storage backend.
Maybe he has needs and requirements that can't be fulfilled by the current
backends.
Aran, can you fill us in a little on the necessity of having a DHT ? What are
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Marc Villemade wrote:
> Hey Andreas,
>
> I think it makes sense if the storage backend is hosted on-premise (hence
> private cloud), and i think that's what Aran is thinking about.
> They could have Plone->ZODB->Storage backend in the same datacenter
Hey Andreas,
I think it makes sense if the storage backend is hosted on-premise (hence
private cloud), and i think that's what Aran is thinking about.
They could have Plone->ZODB->Storage backend in the same datacenter, hence no
latency problem and good network throughput, provided that the clou
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Aran Dunkley wrote:
> I mean P2P as in using a DHT (distributed hash table) for its storage
> layer so that it can run in a network composed only of the client users
> with no web-server, the same way that the file-sharing programs such as
> azzureus a
I mean P2P as in using a DHT (distributed hash table) for its storage
layer so that it can run in a network composed only of the client users
with no web-server, the same way that the file-sharing programs such as
azzureus and aMule work. We can develop a basic wiki/blog in this way,
but would pref
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Aran Dunkley wrote:
> I'm
> wondering what you guys, the core developers, think of the
> practicalities of Plone in P2P, for example could ZODB use a DHT as its
> storage layer? what kind of querying is required on the DHT?
No idea what "P2P" means to
Hi, I'm part of a development team who are helping an organisation to
architect a CMS based project that they want to work in a P2P network
rather than using a centralised web-server. We'd prefer to use an
existing popular CMS as a starting point so that it is mature, has a
large development commun
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