Re: [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 Container performance
I believe it may led to better performance, as the actual kernel (S10) is more efficient in many ways, while the overhead of adaption (ie. the brandZ code) is usually small. Rayson On 6/12/08, Peter Tobac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, from performance point of view running an application in a Solaris 10 zone does not differ from running it in the global zone. What about Solaris 8/9 containers? Would a Solaris 8/9 container be less performant than a native S8/S9 installation? Thanks for your feedback! Peter Si quid novisti rectius istis, candidus imperti; si nil, his utere mecum. Peter Tobac Engagement Architect Sun Microsystems Belgium Phone x48907/+32-2-704 8907 Mobile +32-474-901765 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete all copies. ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Setting the time in a Zone (or Container)
Timewarp Zones will eventually be in a future version of Solaris: http://blogs.sun.com/dank/entry/28_days_later http://blogs.sun.com/dank/entry/the_semantics_of_time_independent http://blogs.sun.com/dank/entry/back_to_the_future_timewarp Rayson On 8/17/07, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can set the TIMEZONE as desired within each local zone to be different than the global zone, but each zone does not keep it's own time as such. Paul ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] webshere in Solaris 10 containers
Just the first few hits from googling for: Websphere solaris containers filetype:pdf Solaris Containers For WebSphere Application Server: http://blogs.sun.com/sunabl/resource/WebSphere_SolarisContainerScenarios.pdf An optimal platform for deploying IBM WebSphere Middleware http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/websphere/WebSphere-Sol-10-SS-4.pdf Rayson On 5/26/07, Raed Bayyat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I know that IBM Webshere is certified to run on Solairs 10, however has any experiance on running Webshere in Solaris 10 container or zones? is their any issues? Regards Raed ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Changing the date of a nonglobal zone
On 4/24/07, Dan Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's not possible to do so. However, the time zone can be set independently between zones. Having a different date/time settings for non-global zones seems to be a commonly requested feature... IMO, it should be possible to allow a time offset in each non-global zone, but gettimeofday() time() in those zones will need to be modified to add the offset into the return value. Rayson ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Changing the date of a nonglobal zone
On 4/26/07, Jeff Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because a time zone is a time offset, how does that not meet your needs? I think TZ has its limitation on this -- but frankly I don't have a real need for it. Also, I had thought that there was an RFE to allow each zone to have its own time clock, but I can't find it now. In the FAQ: RFE 5033497 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq/#cfg_clock Rayson -- Jeff VICTOR Sun Microsystemsjeff.victor @ sun.com OS AmbassadorSr. Technical Specialist Solaris 10 Zones FAQ:http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq -- ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Zones Examples
On 4/23/07, Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes it easier for myself and others to update (and due to recent zone developments it does need some updates - it was mostly written over 2 years ago!). Yup, linking to the Sun BluePrints would be cool too... Rayson cheers, Brendan -- Brendan [CA, USA] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] wrong root pwd for one of my zone, how can I recover it?
I found this: http://www.sun.com/emrkt/campaign_docs/expertexchange/knowledge/solaris_grid_gen.html#5 Rayson On 4/19/07, steeles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't remember root password for one of zones, is there any way to recover it back? Thanks. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Container s in practice – please advice
There are a number of nice documents at: http://www.sun.com/blueprints/browsedate.html 1) The Sun BluePrints Guide to Solaris Containers: Virtualization in the Solaris Operating System 2) Application and Database Server Consolidation on the Sun Fire X4600 Server using Solaris Containers 3) Deploying Sun Java Enterprise System 2005-Q4 on the Sun Fire T2000 Server Using Solaris Containers 4) Working with Solaris Containers and the Solaris Service Manager 5) Solaris Containers Technology Architecture Guide 6) Consolidating the Sun Store onto Sun Fire T2000 Servers 7) Web Consolidation on the Sun Fire T1000 using Solaris Containers Rayson On 3/23/07, Adam Luzecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello forum users, I am finishing computer science studies this year and I need to create thesis. I'm interested in Solaris containers and would like to describe this technology. I want to create a project that uses containers to do something useful and provides some functionality, not only shows how to create zones and assign resources. I have an Ultra 10 with Ultra Sparc IIi 300MHz CPU , 512 MB RAM and 20 GB HDD available. Does someone have any idea how to show practical use of containers on such machine? Other solution I think about is just to design containers without implementation, so I would not need any hardware. But unfortunately I do not have administration experience to decide about resource allocation. Could you please advice if you have any ideas about using containers on Ultra 10, or if you can provide any other suggestions for using Containers in practice. Many thanks, Adam This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Any plans for a Vmotion-like Zone migration tool?
On 3/20/07, Nils Nieuwejaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When migrating a zone, you would have to find some way to extricate the kernel state for just that some subset of a system's processes, devices, network connections, etc. - then insert that state into the middle of a kernel already running on another machine. To put it mildly, that would be hard. It's called kernel-level checkpointing... some operating systems (Cray unicos, IRIX) support it. It's hard, but doable. Those OS writes the address space of the processes to disk, and also record the system state related to those processes (pid, pgid..., IPC, sockets, etc). On restart, the kernel tries to allocate the resources, and resume the process(es). Restart can fail if the pid is already used by another process, for example. IMO, it's useful for long running applications (that's why those HPC systems have it), but for business applications, HA/clustering can do a better job. Rayson If you want live migration on Solaris, and you are using x86/x64 machines, then you should be looking at Xen. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen Nils ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [sysadmin-discuss] NFS server in zones
Hi all, Have we decided what to do for supporting NFS server in non-global zones?? And if we are going forward with the kernel approach (instead of running user-space NFS servers), then may be the NFS developers can answer a few questions: 1) How big a project is it?? (just a rough est) 2) Where is the code for the NFS service?? Which source directory(s) is the starting point?? Correct me if I am wrong - what we need to do to let non-global zones be NFS server is to change some of the data structures in the NFS server code to per-zone data structure - similar to IP Instances: ... take all the other data and convert it from global data to fields in an instance data structure page 21: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/crossbow/Docs/ipinstances-sug1.pdf And, if this is not many months of work, then sounds like it can be a summer of code project, and I will write up an initial project proposal (similar to what I am going to do for lx brand on SPARC (Project BrandZ) ): http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/summerofcode/2007-March/11.html Rayson On 2/14/07, Octave Orgeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for the input. I agree that it'll take a lot of involvement from the community to deliver the code. But I also think there some should a lot of collaboration with the NFS engineers to insure we don't break stuff:) I'm all for a project to be launched from the NFS or Zones community for this. I'd even be willing to help out, just have to keep in mind my programming is a little rusty:) Octave --- Tom Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Octave Orgeron wrote: Hi, This has been a major complaint for many sysadmins and beta testers. I know one of my first bugs filed against the betas of Solaris 10 was the lack of NFS server functionality within zones. I've even been in the situation at work where this has been a requirement, only to have to scrap projects. Probably the most common idea for having a zone NFS server is for Jumpstart or home directories. As things stand today, it's not doable. I've even escalated this thru different channels over the past few years only to see it go no where. I'm sure there is a lot of demand for this feature for zones. I think the key requirements would be: 1. Full NFS server functionality within a zone. So things like share, /etc/dfs/dfstab, sharemgr, ZFS sharing, etc. should work in the same manner as they do in the global zone. 2. Security. Separation of NFS namespace to insure proper security between zones. This may be achieved by making the kernel NFS framework aware of the zoneid context. 3. Performance. NFS serving out of a zone should not be slower or less scalable than NFS serving from the global zone. Starting a project would be nice. But I think there should be close involvement with the NFS engineers at Sun. As for getting their attention and funding, the best we can do is show enough community interest for NFS within zones. So I'd ask all sysadmins, developers, etc. to respond to this thread to show support for fixing this. Octave, Thanks for the input on the requirements. I am a NFS engineer for Sun. I don't think we should count on getting attention and funding for Sun's NFS engineers to do this project. All of us are aware of the need, but are focused on delivering other products. I'm not saying they will not help out, I don't think you could stop them. Again, I think that this is a golden opportunity to start an OpenSolaris project in the clear and with full involvement from the community. I'm willing to provide project leadership and mentoring to external developers. I'm pretty sure that the other NFS engineers are willing to review requirements, specs, design, code, etc. But the bulk of that work will fall on the community to provide. I'm not looking to start a project which gets done entirely within Sun. Thanks, Tom ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] guidance for beginner
On 2/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can avoid giving root access to the users with sudo. But does that mean giving them zones will be easier or safer? Yes, giving away root access in non-global zones is very safe. There is no way to escape from a non-global zone to another non-global zone or to the global zone. So even the root user can only modify settings in his own zone. BTW, there are a number of good articles on zones/containers at: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/zones/ http://www.sun.com/blueprints/browsedate.html Rayson Any guidance greatly appreciated! (should mention I have lots of experience with sol9 and 8 but none with sol10... TIA Tony This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] non global zone and NFS server
It's being worked on: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4964859 IIRC, it is currently not supported because the kernel part of NFS server does not understand the concept of zones... Rayson == http://gridengine.sunsource.net/ http://www.gridengine.info/ On 10/27/06, Paul van den Bogaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It used to be that running a NFS server was not supported in a non global zone. Is this till the case? If so are there any plans to support it? What is the reason for not supporting NFS server in a non global zone? Thanks Paul. -- Paul van den Bogaard Sun Microsystems, NL GPE NE Saturnus 1 Xtension:15918 3824 ME AMERSFOORT Office: +31 334 515 918 The Netherlands Mobile: +31 651 913 354 ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
