Re: [zones-discuss] Package minimization question

[Christine Tran]

My apologies for being late replying.

I've thought of posting the cluster I use but it seems that everyone
has has a special build particular to their needs.For example, most
people would not use kerberos, but it's in rnet.  You could make a
case for SUNWbip, SUNWrcmdc, NTP ... how much do you really need? USB
serial driver ... ?

 Btw, I see you are using the tree view for SPC. How do you like it?

It's OK.  It's good to realize the tree view isn't comprehensive; if
a package doesn't belong in a mini-cluster, it won't show up in the
tree view, althought it will show up in the package view.

CT
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Re: [zones-discuss] Package minimization question

[Glenn Faden]

Christine,

 From the package list I assume you are running Solaris 10, not OpenSolaris.

I suppose you can leave out the X11-related packages, but it isn't a 
valid assumption that a headless system doesn't need these packages. X11 
applications can be remotely displayed using X protocol, or via Xvnc to 
a system with a framebuffer.

Since you state that other systems you've built have worked so far, I 
guess you've got your answer.

--Glenn

Christine Tran wrote:
 Cross-posted, pardon me for duplicates.

 I'm building a system starting with SUNWCrnet, it needs zones and TX.
 Using the fine Solaris Package Companion tool, I'm down to the
 following:

 [C] SUNWCzoneXXSolaris Zones
   [P] SUNWzoner  PASSEDSolaris Zones (Root)
   [P] SUNWzoneu  XXSolaris Zones (Usr)
x [P] SUNWadmfrSystem  Network Administration
 Framework Configuration
x [P] SUNWadmfwSystem  Network Administration Framework
x [P] SUNWctplsPortable layout services for Complex
 Text Layout support
x [P] SUNWdtcorSolaris Desktop /usr/dt filesystem anchor
x [P] SUNWj5rt JDK 5.0 Runtime Env. (1.5.0_14)
x [P] SUNWmfrunMotif RunTime Kit
x [P] SUNWpool Resource Pools
x [P] SUNWpoolrResource Pools (Root)
x [P] SUNWxwdv X Windows System Window Drivers
x [P] SUNWxwfntX Window System platform required fonts
x [P] SUNWxwiceX Window System Inter-Client Exchange
 (ICE) Components
x [P] SUNWxwplrX Window System platform software configuration
x [P] SUNWxwpltX Window System platform software
x [P] SUNWxwrtlX Window System  Graphics Runtime
 Library Links in /usr
 /lib


 [C] SUNWCts  XXSolaris Trusted Extensions
   [P] SUNWtsgXXTrusted Extensions global
   [P] SUNWtsuXXTrusted Extensions, (Usr)
   [P] SUNWtsrXXTrusted Extensions, (Root)
x [P] SUNWctplsPortable layout services for Complex
 Text Layout support
x [P] SUNWdtbasCDE application basic runtime environment
x [P] SUNWdtcorSolaris Desktop /usr/dt filesystem anchor
x [P] SUNWmfrunMotif RunTime Kit
x [P] SUNWxwcftX Window System common (not required) fonts
x [P] SUNWxwdv X Windows System Window Drivers
x [P] SUNWxwfntX Window System platform required fonts
x [P] SUNWxwiceX Window System Inter-Client Exchange
 (ICE) Components
x [P] SUNWxwoptX Window System Optional Clients
x [P] SUNWxwplrX Window System platform software configuration
x [P] SUNWxwpltX Window System platform software
x [P] SUNWxwrtlX Window System  Graphics Runtime
 Library Links in /usr
 /lib

 The x indicates missing packages not in SUNWCrnet.

 I wonder if the X Window, Motif, CDE and Text Layout is *really*
 necessary.  I don't have a problem adding pools and the two admin
 packages.  Other boxes built without these packages have worked fine
 so far.  However, eventually they will need support, and I don't want
 to be in that place where I have to explain why a headless box that
 runs no graphics needs X, and un-supportability.

 Thanks!

 CT
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Re: [zones-discuss] Package minimization question

[Alan Coopersmith]

Christine Tran wrote:
 Cross-posted, pardon me for duplicates.
 
 I'm building a system starting with SUNWCrnet, it needs zones and TX.
x [P] SUNWj5rt JDK 5.0 Runtime Env. (1.5.0_14)
[...]
 I wonder if the X Window, Motif, CDE and Text Layout is *really*
 necessary.  I don't have a problem adding pools and the two admin
 packages.  Other boxes built without these packages have worked fine
 so far.  However, eventually they will need support, and I don't want
 to be in that place where I have to explain why a headless box that
 runs no graphics needs X, and un-supportability.

I would guess that the Java Runtime is the reason for the dependencies
on the X, Motif  CDE library packages, since there aren't separate
packages for Just enough JRE to run-non-GUI Java apps and JRE support
for Java GUI apps.

Those libraries are for X clients, so would also be needed if you want
to ssh to the machine and remote display a GUI app back to another
computer - if you're on Solaris 10 or later, the X servers for local
display are in SUNWxorg-server and SUNWxsun-server, which didn't appear
to be in your list.

-- 
-Alan Coopersmith-   alan.coopersm...@sun.com
 Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

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