[zones-discuss] Zone Networking and Backups

2009-01-23 Thread Matt Walburn
Zones Group,

A colleague and I have been trying to find a definitive answer for a Zones 
networking question as we're trying to solidify how we backup large Oracle 
databases running inside of Zones.

Basically the scenario is this: If I Initiate a client backup from the local 
zone to the storage node software running in the global zone, and they share 
their ethernet interface - no shared IP instance - does the backup traffic hit 
the physical wire? Or, does it stay inside the kernel/memory... thereby 
achieving a very fast in memory transfer to the backup server running in the 
global zone?

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help!

-Matthew
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Re: [zones-discuss] Zone Networking and Backups

2009-01-23 Thread Bob Netherton
For ip-type=shared the communication stays in the system.  O(memory  
speed).  Very fast with little IP processing. This is the default.

For ip-type=exclusive the communication will have to go out the  
interface assigned to the nonglobal zone and routed externally to an  
interface on the global zone. It is visible and the transfer is  
O(slowest interface).

Bob

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On Jan 23, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Matt Walburn m...@railwave.com wrote:

 Zones Group,

 A colleague and I have been trying to find a definitive answer for a  
 Zones networking question as we're trying to solidify how we backup  
 large Oracle databases running inside of Zones.

 Basically the scenario is this: If I Initiate a client backup from  
 the local zone to the storage node software running in the global  
 zone, and they share their ethernet interface - no shared IP  
 instance - does the backup traffic hit the physical wire? Or, does  
 it stay inside the kernel/memory... thereby achieving a very fast in  
 memory transfer to the backup server running in the global zone?

 Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help!

 -Matthew
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Re: [zones-discuss] Zone Networking and Backups

2009-01-23 Thread Steffen Weiberle
On 01/23/09 14:41, Matt Walburn wrote:
 Zones Group,
 
 A colleague and I have been trying to find a definitive answer for a Zones 
 networking question as we're trying to solidify how we backup large Oracle 
 databases running inside of Zones.
 
 Basically the scenario is this: If I Initiate a client backup from the local 
 zone to the storage node software running in the global zone, and they 
 share their ethernet interface - no shared IP instance - does the backup 
 traffic hit the physical wire? Or, does it stay inside the kernel/memory... 
 thereby achieving a very fast in memory transfer to the backup server running 
 in the global zone?
 
 Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help!
 
 -Matthew

The traffic must not go out the ethernet interface if using the single 
interface you mentioned. Otherwise it would be an spec violation as 
ethernet frames going to the switch can't be sent directly back to the 
system.

You mention not using shared IP, yet only one interface.

I mention that since if you were to configure VNICs on a single physical 
interface, the same rules apply, even if the zones are configured with 
exclusive IP Instances. The VNIC 'switch' will not have frames leave the 
system.

Actually, the more I read the question, the more confused I am. Are the 
zones on the same IP subnet? Are you using one NIC *and* using exclusive 
IP Instances (ip-type=exclusive)? If not using VNICs (SX-CE 105) are you 
using VLANs?

Steffen

PS. for some scenarios with VNICs or VLANs, see blogs.sun.com/stw/
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