Re: [zones-discuss] how to have zones with a different solaris 10 version than the host

2009-11-09 Thread Thomas Elsgaard
> If this is needed on Solaris 10 ( ie global must be solaris 10 ), then it is
> not currently possible.  Solaris 10 does not support an s10 brand.
>  Non-global zones running Solaris 10 are virtual copies of the global zone
> itself.
>
>
> Ldoms does support this, but is only on sun4v by the way.

Hi Guys

Thanks a lot for the clarification

///Thomas
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Re: [zones-discuss] how to have zones with a different solaris 10 version than the host

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Elsgaard
 wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I have 2 SUN sparc machines that i would like to consolidate to one
> machine using the zone/container concept, but the application requires
> a different version of solaris 10 than the one installed on the host
> server, how can i handle this?
>
> Application requires: Solaris 10 10/08

Is this a hard requirement, or "must be at least ..." requirement?
Are you ever able to apply patches on top of Solaris 10 10/08?  For
the vast majority of applications, Solaris 10 10/08 + a bunch of
patches is indistinguishable from Solaris 10 5/09.  Any application
that has a hard requirement for Solaris 10 10/08 (without any patches,
updates, or upgrades) is not an application you can afford to have
attached to a machine attached to the network.

>
> And my host machine where i would like to have the applications to run
> in a zone is running Solaris 10 5/09
>
> Is there anyway that i can have a zone runing 10 10/08 on the global
> zone where the server is running 10 5/09 ? and how is this done?

My guess is that the right way forward for you is to install a box
with Solaris 10 10/09 on a box, then use update on attach to migrate
your 10 10/08 and 10 5/09 boxes to the current release that is all
patched up (minus a late breaking Sun Alert or two).

Others have mentioned using the S10 brand that is part of an upcoming
OpenSolaris release.  I think that I read that this is first supported
with Solaris 10 10/09, so it would be of no use to you.  LDoms would
likely work just fine, but you should consider whether there is really
a significant difference between Solaris 10 10/08 + patches to address
reliability and security issues compared to Solaris 10 10/09.

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Re: [zones-discuss] how to have zones with a different solaris 10 version than the host

2009-11-09 Thread Enda O'Connor
when build 127 of Opensolaris releases, this will be possible via the 
s10 brand which will integrate at that stage. Build 126 is the current 
available build, so 127 won't be far off, a few week perhaps, someone 
can clarify.


If this is needed on Solaris 10 ( ie global must be solaris 10 ), then 
it is not currently possible.  Solaris 10 does not support an s10 brand. 
 Non-global zones running Solaris 10 are virtual copies of the global 
zone itself.



Ldoms does support this, but is only on sun4v by the way.

Enda
Thomas Elsgaard wrote:

Hi Guys

I have 2 SUN sparc machines that i would like to consolidate to one
machine using the zone/container concept, but the application requires
a different version of solaris 10 than the one installed on the host
server, how can i handle this?

Application requires: Solaris 10 10/08

And my host machine where i would like to have the applications to run
in a zone is running Solaris 10 5/09

Is there anyway that i can have a zone runing 10 10/08 on the global
zone where the server is running 10 5/09 ? and how is this done?

Best regards

///Thomas
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Re: [zones-discuss] how to have zones with a different solaris 10 version than the host

2009-11-09 Thread Bryan Allen
+--
| On 2009-11-09 21:39:55, Thomas Elsgaard wrote:
| 
| Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:39:55 +0100
| From: Thomas Elsgaard 
| To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
| Subject: [zones-discuss] how to have zones with a different solaris 10
|   version than the host
| 
| Hi Guys
| 
| I have 2 SUN sparc machines that i would like to consolidate to one
| machine using the zone/container concept, but the application requires
| a different version of solaris 10 than the one installed on the host
| server, how can i handle this?
| 
| Application requires: Solaris 10 10/08
| 
| And my host machine where i would like to have the applications to run
| in a zone is running Solaris 10 5/09
| 
| Is there anyway that i can have a zone runing 10 10/08 on the global
| zone where the server is running 10 5/09 ? and how is this done?

OpenSolaris will be getting "Solaris 10 branded zones", which should, in
theory, allow you to mix S10 updates in OpenSolaris zones. I don't imagine this
will ever get putback into Solaris 10 itself.

Regardless, you can't do this now, to the best of my knowledge. You could use
LDOMs if your SPARC supports them, or Xen, or VirtualBox. My first
recommendation would be using LDOMs, though.
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[zones-discuss] how to have zones with a different solaris 10 version than the host

2009-11-09 Thread Thomas Elsgaard
Hi Guys

I have 2 SUN sparc machines that i would like to consolidate to one
machine using the zone/container concept, but the application requires
a different version of solaris 10 than the one installed on the host
server, how can i handle this?

Application requires: Solaris 10 10/08

And my host machine where i would like to have the applications to run
in a zone is running Solaris 10 5/09

Is there anyway that i can have a zone runing 10 10/08 on the global
zone where the server is running 10 5/09 ? and how is this done?

Best regards

///Thomas
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