Re: [Zope] Cobalt Qube

2001-01-27 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

 Inexplicably I purchased a Qube 2 to play around with but am
 wondering whether I should keep or dispose of it now.  I've
 left the shrinkwrap on while I decide. It was *cheap*!

It's a reliable little box. Plug it in and it will keep running. 
However. Lately it has become difficult to find RAM for it. You'll want 
128MB + to do anything interesting.

Zope will run on it. Performance would be approximately equivalent to a 
Pentium 133.  More than enough to saturate a 10Mb network, let alone a 
T1. So it makes for a very good Apache server.

However, it does not make a very good Zope server. It runs Zope well 
enough to support a small site or intranet. But if you got Slashdotted 
heavily, it might fall over. The more RAM you have the better.

 Is it possible to set up Zope +/- SSL on this box without
 having to purchase software modules from Cobaltnetworks?
 
 ( I have no Linux experience )

Well, if you have no Linux experience, and are intimidated by Linux, 
then don't touch it.

But if you put in a bit of effort, you'll find it worth the time.

The best SSL option would be buying the sw from Cobalt. You'll have to 
go to the command line to do it, though.

Moderate SSL use will kill the Qube, however.

If you want to use Zope heavily and do a lot of SSL, then get an Athlon 
or P3.

A P3-1000 is almost 15 X faster than the Qube2 when it comes to running 
Zope.

Luke


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Re: [Zope] OpenBSD 2.8 woes

2001-01-15 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello Jan:

 I don't really know what else I could do. Right now it looks
 pretty much as if I'm going to switch to FreeBSD, my second
 favourite :-| 
 Has anyone got Zope 2.2.5 running under OpenBSD 2.8??? If so, I'd
 be really curious what steps you followed to get it to work.-

You will have to use FreeBSD or use OpenBSD 2.7.

2.8 will not work because there is a bug in the threading library 
included with OpenBSD 2.8. Zope triggers it when you call the management 
screen.

However, in the Zope code for the management screens there are 
"thread-safe" calls used which are not, as far as I know, used elsewhere 
in Zope. Maybe there is a bug in that code?

But for now I believe the bug to be in OpenBSD 2.8. I have not found 
anything to suggest that it has been fixed or looked at. None of the 
patches released so far for 2.8 mention it.

I went through this in early December.

Luke


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Re: [Zope] Re: running zope with OpenBSD 2.8 i386

2000-12-17 Thread Luke Tymowski

At 06:25 PM 2000/12/13 +0100, you wrote:
My question is: Did someone of you got zope running with obsd 2.8? The
documentation of zope says it runs in any case with 2.7 and python 1.6

You cannot run Zope with OpenBSD 2.8.
Zope triggers an obscure bug in the threading library that comes with 2.8.

Zope runs wonderfully with OpenBSD 2.7.

Luke


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[Zope] Failed upgrade to 2.2.4 - solutions?

2000-12-08 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

I've just tried and failed to upgrade to 2.2.4 from 2.2.2.  A python 
instance  starts up and slowly swallows the CPU,  ending with 99% of the 
CPU. A second python instance starts and doesn't do anything naughty.

If I issue a ./stop, the second python instance ends properly, but the 
first continues to consume all CPU resources.

I've tried recompiling it several times, reinstalling Python, but no go. 
It did once start up properly, but as soon as I tried logging into Zope, 
python took over the CPU.

I'm using OpenBSD 2.8, python 1.5.2, x86, 196MB of RAM, GBs of free disk 
space.

I've been using Zope since 2.0 and have never had this much trouble 
upgrading.  the only Zope product I'm using is SiteAccess (the same 
setup as the old Zope.org before the cluster upgrade).

Any ideas?

thanks,

Luke


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Re: [Zope] Failed upgrade to 2.2.4 - solutions?

2000-12-08 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello

   To enable profiling, restart the Zope process with the environment
   variable PROFILE_PUBLISHER defined. The value of this variable should be
   the full system path to a file that will be used to dump a profile report
   when the process restarts or exits.

PROFILE_PUBLISHER='/home/luke/sw/zopeProfile.txt'

like so in my z2.py? it didn't do anything.
But I can get a python core dump!

I tried just a basic install, without my Data.fs. Same result.
I tried 2.2.2. Same result.

Looks like an incompatibility with OpenBSD 2.8 (I was running 2.7 until 
2 weeks ago.)

Any ideas? C-compiler or Python incompatibility between what is on 
OpenBSD 2.8 and Zope?

OpenBSD 2.8 comes with Python 1.6. I removed all traces of Python and 
reinstalled 1.52 from the source.

Luke


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Re: [Zope] Failed upgrade to 2.2.4 - solutions?

2000-12-08 Thread Luke Tymowski

Michel Pelletier wrote:

 bash$: export PROFILE_PUBLISHER=/home/luke/sw/zopeProfile.txt
 bash$: python z2.py -D

Tried that. Nothing written to the text file.
But I did get this after doing a control-c ...

---
File "z2.py", line 537, in ?
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "z2.py", line 719, in ?
   asyncore.loop()
zdaemon.run(sys.argv, os.path.join(CLIENT_HOME, Zpid))
  File "/home/luke/sw/zope224/lib/python/zdaemon.py", line 208, in run
   p,s = os.waitpid(pid, 0)
  File "/home/luke/sw/zope224/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 138, in loop
KeyboardInterrupt
   luke$ poll_fun (timeout, map)
  File "/home/luke/sw/zope224/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 66, in poll
   r,w,e = select.select (r,w,e, timeout)
---
With the python 1.5.2 source I did a make test, and it failed on test_fcntl.
With the python 2.0 source I did a make test, and Python core dumped on 
test_poll.

I'm guessing, but it looks like Zope on my box has a poll issue.

 It's possible you have library missmatch.

Python library or C library?

I made pretty certain that I'd removed all traces of Python from the box 
before reinstalling.
/usr/local/bin
/usr/local/lib
/usr/local/include

Luke




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Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web 
project. However, I read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think) 
that Zope(running thru Zserver?) is much SLOWER than Apache and 
AOLserver.  Is that true? To all Zope users and 'guru's, what is yr 
experience using Zope?

I run the QubeQuorner weblog where those numbers came from.

Zope isn't slow. It's slower than Apache serving static pages. But Zope is 
dynamic. I haven't yet had time to do proper dynamic comparisons between 
the various servers.

I run a few Zope sites. And I'm adding more Zope sites. I wouldn't do that 
if I thought it was too slow.

There is a lot involved in making a site faster or slower. Adding a few 
graphics to your web page is going to make it slower than an all-text page. 
An all-text page vs a mixed text and graphics page can be almost twice as 
fast. Your connection to the site is going to affect "apparent" 
performance. For example, while I have a cable modem at home, and my Zope 
server sits on a fast T1 (there are slow T1s and fast ones), the connection 
in the evenings is too slow for me use my server. That's @Home's fault, not 
Zope's. And our T1 will fill up well before Zope runs out of steam on my box.

Technocrat.net is a Zope site. They were Slashdotted and survived without 
any apparent problems. And they were running Zope on a Pentium 120! I 
believe they upgraded to a PII-450 after that episode, just to be safe.

I have a list of Pystone benchmarks on my QQ site too:
http://weblogs.userland.com/qube/stories/storyReader$289

A PIII-850 gives tremendous Python performance, which should translate to 
impressive Zope numbers too. Zope.org, however, doesn't run on nearly the 
fastest hardware available, and it rarely seems slow to me.

Luke


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Re: [Zope] Is there a better way to code this?

2000-07-03 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello Andrew,

You should set flags to say when it's safe to render the header/footer,
or you should remove the header/footer calls from documents you want to
embed.

Can't do the latter.
I'm building a weblog. I need to have the user enter entries for each day. 
I need for each day to display properly on its own - which means each needs 
header and footer code. And I need the front page to be created on the fly, 
consisting of the three latest entries, but, of course, without the header 
and footer code appearing in the body of the document.

It now works as it should, but I want to know if there is a more elegant 
way of doing what I want to do. No point pointing fellow newbies at 
something and then have one of the gurus suggest I could have done it much 
more simply and elegantly.

Luke


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[Zope] Zope dumps core while querying on id

2000-07-01 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

Actually I suppose it's Python that's dumping core.

The following query causes a core dump:
dtml-with history
   dtml-with 2000
 dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document'])" size=3 sort=id reverse
   dtml-var sequence-itembr
 /dtml-in
   /dtml-with
/dtml-with

The following query works as expected:
dtml-with history
   dtml-with 2000
 dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document'])" size=3 sort=title reverse
   dtml-var sequence-itembr
 /dtml-in
   /dtml-with
/dtml-with


Any idea why?

I'm using 2.1.6.

The other day I posted a question asking why my bobobase_modification_time 
was off by 1 day. I got no answer. But upgrading from 2.1.4 to 2.1.6 seems 
to have fixed that issue. The core dump happened in 2.1.4, so I upgraded to 
2.1.6, but the core dump issue remains.

thanks,

Luke


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[Zope] bobobase_modification_time off by 1 day - why?

2000-06-29 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

Zope reports the bobobase_modification_time  to be off by one day (1 day 
behind). The box has the right time (when checked from the OS), and asking 
Zope to return ZopeTime returns the correct date and time.

Anyone know why?

thanks,

Luke


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Re: [Zope] DTML question

2000-06-28 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

  dtml-in "PARENTS[0].objectValues(['DTML Document'])" size=3 sort=id
should
 work, no?

No.

This works on my production server, which runs Zope 2.1.14.
dtml-with history
  dtml-with 2000
dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document'])" size=3 sort=title reverse
  dtml-var sequence-itembr
/dtml-in
  /dtml-with
/dtml-with

But if I try that same code on 2.2b2 it doesn't work.
If the subfolder is down 1, then size=1 works, but size=2 returns
everything.
If the subfolder is down 2, then size=1 works, size=2 works, but size=3
returns everything.

By down 2 I mean like the example code above (folder I want to query is two
levels down).

Maybe it's a 2.2 bug?

Luke




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[Zope] 2.2b3 Tutorial issues

2000-06-28 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

The tutorial included with 2.2b3 now "works"; however, the documents are in
the wrong order (9, 10, 11, 1, 2, 3, 4 etc). And every page generates a
JavaScript error on IE 5.01 (syntax error on line 74).

Luke




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[Zope] DTML question

2000-06-27 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

I want to retrieve the last 3 filenames from a subfolder and display them in
a document. If I set the size of the retrieval to 1, I get just 1 name
returned. If I set the size to 3, I get everything in the folder. (if I use
2 I also get everything in the subfolder )

Here is my code (using 2.2b2):

dtml-with Document
  dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document'])" size=3 sort=id
  dtml-var id dtml-var titlebr
  /dtml-in
/dtml-with

thanks,

Luke


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[Zope] How to retrieve content of a document?

2000-06-27 Thread Luke Tymowski

Hello,

Yet another question. I've gone through the DTML Reference Guide but
couldn't find the answer.

How do I display the content of a DTML Document through a query?

For example:

dtml-with Document
  dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document'])" size=3 sort=id
  dtml-var id dtml-var titlebr
  /dtml-in
/dtml-with

Displays the document's name and title. But how do i display the content of
that document within that query?

I apologise if it's obvious.

thanks,

Luke


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