Re: [Zope-CMF] Member preferences

2010-06-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 6/30/10 16:07 , Charlie Clark wrote: Am 30.06.2010, 15:09 Uhr, schrieb Tres Seavertsea...@palladion.com: As a general rule, I would actually prefer that we strip out the keywords currently in the code -- they are CVS-era fossils which no longer add any value in the SVN + eggs world. Does

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sendmail and critical transaction errors.

2010-06-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 6/24/10 09:46 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/10 09:30 , Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: The misconfiguration of the mail host in transactional mode *does* cause the server to go into a lockdown mode (because errors are not supposed

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ Update Five's testbrowser to support both mechanize 0.1.x and 0.2.x.

2010-05-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 112803: Update Five's testbrowser to support both mechanize 0.1.x and 0.2.x. Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst U Zope/branches/2.12/src/Products/Five/testbrowser.py -=- Modified: Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/Testing/testbrowser.py Merge r112803 from 2.12 branch

2010-05-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 112804: Merge r112803 from 2.12 branch Changed: U Zope/trunk/src/Testing/testbrowser.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/src/Testing/testbrowser.py === --- Zope/trunk/src/Testing/testbrowser.py

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst This is a feature really, not a bug

2010-05-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 112805: This is a feature really, not a bug Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst -=- Modified: Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst === --- Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst 2010-05-28

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/15/10 09:59 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 15 May 2010 15:39, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net mailto:wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 5/10/10 17:24 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I fixed a few issues in z3c.form today. Can anyone make a 2.3.4 release? Since I got no reaction

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/17/10 15:14 , Gediminas Paulauskas wrote: 2010/5/17 Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net: On 5/15/10 09:59 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 15 May 2010 15:39, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net mailto:wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 5/10/10 17:24 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I fixed

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ Fix several template errors in SiteErrorLog (chameleon compatibility)

2010-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 112324: Fix several template errors in SiteErrorLog (chameleon compatibility) Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst U Zope/branches/2.12/src/Products/SiteErrorLog/www/main.pt -=- Modified: Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/Products/SiteErrorLog/www/main.pt Merge r112324 from 2.12 branch

2010-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 112326: Merge r112324 from 2.12 branch Changed: U Zope/trunk/src/Products/SiteErrorLog/www/main.pt -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/src/Products/SiteErrorLog/www/main.pt === ---

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form issue tracker

2010-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/10/10 20:16 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: Where should bugreports for z3c.form be submitted? Its documentation does not list an issue tracker, and there is no z3c.form project on launchpad. I just created one: https

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/10/10 17:24 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I fixed a few issues in z3c.form today. Can anyone make a 2.3.4 release? Since I got no reaction I'll repeat this request: can someone please make a new z3c.form release? Looking at the pypi page there is no shortage of people with the ability to do

[Zope-dev] z3c.form issue tracker

2010-05-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Where should bugreports for z3c.form be submitted? Its documentation does not list an issue tracker, and there is no z3c.form project on launchpad. Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev **

[Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I fixed a few issues in z3c.form today. Can anyone make a 2.3.4 release? Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 12:20 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Good evening :) If you have a specific issue with me, you might contact me in private. But with your follow-ups this turned into a more general issue. No, I think this needs to be public as the ZTK is a public project that I

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 12:34 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I expect us to define the process around package releases and updating the ZTK. It's not entirely clear to me who should and who is allowed to update the ZTK definition. We'll figure things out and once we have I'll

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 12:52 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I suggest that we wait impatiently for the ZTK steering committee to come up with a useful policy instead of trying to do their work when none of us volunteered for the task. I don't understand your suggestion. Could you

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 13:07 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 5/3/10 12:51 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Can we please not rehash an old discussion or make this personal? This has all been discussed too often already. As far as I know, I've *never* discussed

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 15:41 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 13:22, Martijn Faassenfaas...@startifact.com wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Sorry, my mistake. I meant the ZTK release manage group, not the now defunct ZTK steering group, Well, if it's defunct

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.test.doctest made into monkey-patches (Was: Circular dependency hell.)

2010-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/20/10 13:37 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2010, Lennart Regebro wrote: It replaces the custom doctest.py with monkey-patches. I will report these to the Python bugtracker as well, although I have no hope of getting them into Python 2.7. But that doesn't matter much. :)

Re: [Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/20/10 09:51 , yuppie wrote: Hi! Wichert Akkerman wrote: v is the html as generated by my view. Reraising the exception transfers control to the bare except in ZPublisher.Publish.publish_module_standard, which generates the standard site error page and returns that. Could

Re: [Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/20/10 09:51 , yuppie wrote: Hi! Wichert Akkerman wrote: v is the html as generated by my view. Reraising the exception transfers control to the bare except in ZPublisher.Publish.publish_module_standard, which generates the standard site error page and returns that. Could

Re: [Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/20/10 15:17 , yuppie wrote: Hi! Wichert Akkerman wrote: Unauthorised is doing stupid things here: (Pdb) p v Unauthorized() (Pdb) p unicode(v) u'' (Pdb) p str(v) *** UnicodeEncodeError: UnicodeEncodeError('ascii', u'!DOCTYPE html...', 1175, 1176, 'ordinal not in range(128

[Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I can't get an Unauthorized exception view to work with current Zope 2.12 svn. My approach was: - add a dummy PAS challenge plugin which does nothing, effectively delegating everything to my Unauthorized exception view - register a browser view for Unauthorized and return a proper error

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/18/10 10:37 , Christophe Combelles wrote: Tres Seaver a écrit : So far the main circularity was that everything depended on zope.testing as a testrunner, zc.buildout for making the development environment, and zope.testing obviously depended on zope.interface etc. I solved that by also

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
? +1 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting

2010-04-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
earlier today as well and figured that I can probably get away with it and a little automated cleanup. I'll try that the next time. Thank you both! W. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] Launchpad gardening

2010-04-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Excellent work! On 4/15/10 16:28 , Tres Seaver wrote: - - Charlie Clarke put together a script which polls Launchpad for languishing bugs for a project. I hacked on it a bit, allowing running the report against the 'zopetoolkit' project group, etc.:

Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting

2010-04-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/Products/PluginIndexes/PathIndex/PathIndex.py Merge r110877 to trunk

2010-04-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 110879: Merge r110877 to trunk Changed: U Zope/trunk/src/Products/PluginIndexes/PathIndex/PathIndex.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/src/Products/PluginIndexes/PathIndex/PathIndex.py === ---

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ Wrap exception views in the context of the published object.

2010-04-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 110779: Wrap exception views in the context of the published object. Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/doc/CHANGES.rst U Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py U Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/tests/testExceptionHook.py -=- Modified:

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/ Merge change from 2.12 branch

2010-04-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 110780: Merge change from 2.12 branch Changed: U Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/startup.py U Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/tests/testExceptionHook.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/startup.py === ---

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py Safety harness

2010-04-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 110784: Safety harness Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py -=- Modified: Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py === --- Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py 2010-04-13

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py Acquisition is an even harsher mistress now that we have __parent__

2010-04-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 110785: Acquisition is an even harsher mistress now that we have __parent__ Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py -=- Modified: Zope/branches/2.12/src/Zope2/App/startup.py === ---

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/startup.py Merge changes from 2.12 branch

2010-04-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 110786: Merge changes from 2.12 branch Changed: U Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/startup.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/startup.py === --- Zope/trunk/src/Zope2/App/startup.py 2010-04-13 12:43:06

[Zope-dev] z3c.form radio widget question

2010-04-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I am wondering why the z3c.form radio widget appends :list to the names of the generated input elements. Since a radio list can never have more than one option selected I can't see any reason to do that. Does anyone know this is done? Wichert. ___

Re: [Zope-dev] short svn.zope.org downtime

2010-04-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/7/10 17:14 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/7/10 17:08 , Tres Seaver wrote: I'm seeing frequent periods of 50+% packet loss to the machine, and can't even get top to run on it this morning. Any clues about what is causing the load? I

Re: [Zope-dev] short svn.zope.org downtime

2010-04-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/7/10 17:17 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 4/7/10 17:14 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/7/10 17:08 , Tres Seaver wrote: I'm seeing frequent periods of 50+% packet loss to the machine, and can't even get top to run on it this morning. Any clues

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?

2010-04-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/2/10 10:36 , Adam GROSZER wrote: zc.buildout is a tough decision, because it's not upgrading issue. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2010-March/015794.html Why would you ever install zc.buildout systemwide? Just as with setuptools I consider that to be a recipe for

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout not upgrading issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/2/10 16:23 , Adam GROSZER wrote: The way you install your app with is: $ install -u https://build.twollo.com/buildouts/ -p Twollo -V QA --latest Where the install script comes with keas.build. At this point nothing exists from your app on the server, not even a .cfg or svn checkout.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/30/10 16:56 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution, but that's a bit too much for now. As a next step I'd like to split out

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/30/10 18:05 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: The C code which we might want to turn into optional optimizations at a later point, would follow the same standard we already use in the Zope Toolkit. So there won't be any new kind of risk. For example zope.i18nmessageid and zope.interface use this

Re: [Zope-dev] Control Panel/Product Management doesn't display normal products in Zope 2.12

2010-03-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/15/10 11:24 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Baiju Mmba...@zeomega.com wrote: In Zope 2.12, Control Panel - Product Management doesn't display normal products. This functionality was working until Zope 2.11 What do you mean with normal products ? A simple

Re: [Zope-dev] Another buildbot with the package trunks of the ZTK

2010-03-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
caught up with the new APIs / usage patterns. Debian has fully automated that approach in its testing distribution. Perhaps something similar might be doable for the ZTK. Wichert.= -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: IRC meeting today at 3pm UTC

2010-03-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/2/10 09:31 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, today we'll start the experiment of having a short IRC meeting to talk about organisational issues. I've had some input for the agenda and mixed with my own questions here's the list of topics: ZTK / Infrastructure - Test runners /

[Zope-dev] z3c.form IGroupForm unused?

2010-03-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
z3c.form.interfaces.IGroupForm does not appear to be used anywhere. Is that an oversight, or should the interface be deleted? Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

2010-03-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/1/10 13:41 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Gedminas wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 05:05:51PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-2-26 18:25, Tres Seaver wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I see this as naming confusion. In this day and age

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

2010-03-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/1/10 15:09 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, On 03/01/2010 02:28 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm with Wichert here. In most places, we tend to carry around unicode strings internally, and only encode on the boundaries, e.g. when the URL is rendered. I don't see why redirect() can't have a

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

2010-02-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-2-26 18:25, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2/25/10 17:08 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, Looks like zope.publisher burps on unicode URL which contain non

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

2010-02-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/25/10 17:08 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, Looks like zope.publisher burps on unicode URL which contain non-ascii chars. This is from a KGS 3.4 application, but looking at the source it still seems to have the same

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

2010-02-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I suspect many parts in Zope are not up to handling unicode URLs. A bug I'ld say :) Wichert. On 2/25/10 15:00 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, Looks like zope.publisher burps on unicode URL which contain non-ascii chars. This is from a KGS 3.4 application, but looking at the source it still

[Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher context. This appears to have changed in Zope 2.12: exception views are now wrapped in the exception. This is problematic since it means you can no longer use the context when rendering an error page, so things like

Re: [Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/23/10 12:33 , Martin Aspeli wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2/23/10 11:09 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote: In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher context. In Zope 2.10, exception

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form and redirects

2010-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/23/10 15:33 , Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi, A lot of the forms I write perform a redirect at the end of the action handler for a successfully submitted form. z3c.form's __call__() indiscriminately calls update() and then render(). This means that even if something in update() (the action

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/wichert=request-modifier/ New branch to test a ZPublisher change

2010-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 109225: New branch to test a ZPublisher change Changed: A Zope/branches/wichert=request-modifier/ -=- ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/wichert=request-modifier/ If a traversal step returns the same object do not call before-publish hooks again

2010-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Log message for revision 109226: If a traversal step returns the same object do not call before-publish hooks again Changed: U Zope/branches/wichert=request-modifier/doc/CHANGES.rst U Zope/branches/wichert=request-modifier/src/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py U

[Zope-dev] traversal and __before_publishing_traverse__ conflict

2010-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
this that I can see is to make ZPublisher check if a traversal step returns the same object again, and if so skip the __before_publishing_traverse__ hook in that case. This feels like a safe change, but I am not sure if this would break anything. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-dev] traversal and __before_publishing_traverse__ conflict

2010-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
-21 21:21, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Apologies for the cross post, but since there are many components involved here I'm not sure what the right list is. Plone uses plone.theme to set an IBrowserSkinType on the request that matches the currently selected CMF skin. This is very useful since

Re: [Zope-CMF] traversal and __before_publishing_traverse__ conflict

2010-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
-21 21:21, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Apologies for the cross post, but since there are many components involved here I'm not sure what the right list is. Plone uses plone.theme to set an IBrowserSkinType on the request that matches the currently selected CMF skin. This is very useful since

Re: [Zope-dev] No license distributed with sources

2010-02-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
source' they ship is legally valid. And they do have a point that our packages explicitly point to an internal license file in the package which does not exist. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Zope-Checkins] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ Fall back to HELO when EHLO (an optional extension) fails

2010-02-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/3/10 15:07 , Martijn Pieters wrote: Log message for revision 108731: Fall back to HELO when EHLO (an optional extension) fails Does that check if the server greets you with ESMTP or SMTP? If it is ESMTP and EHLO fails something is quite wrong, and if it is SMTP you already know EHLO

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout + debugzope + wsgi

2010-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-1-24 11:11, Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, I did the recipe z3c.recipe.paster:debug just in case someone needs it. How does paster shell relate to this? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote: * BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and experiences, but as a part of it's minimalistic nature does not include *anything* of the ZTK, it just builds on the ZCA. But you can use the ZTK, if you want to, you are just not required

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-1-22 18:41, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote: * BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and experiences, but as a part of it's minimalistic nature does not include

Re: [Zope-dev] Possible DateTime timezone-related regression in Zope 2.12

2010-01-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
an me (in 'GMT+x' time zones) and pass in the u.s. fun! :) Does anyone know if this change was deliberate, or what may have happened? Have you looked at http://zope3.pov.lt/trac/log/Zope/trunk/lib/python/DateTime?rev=95999 for hints? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-CMF] GenericSetup release?

2010-01-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2009-12-31 13:09, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I noticed that the last release, 1.5.0b1, is over 3 months old. Would anyone mind if I created a 1.5.0-final release? Please do. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make

Re: [Zope-CMF] GenericSetup and PluggableAuthService

2009-12-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2009-12-30 15:35, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2009-12-30 15:06, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Separate note: On the Import tab I see a dropdown of extension profiles to select. Changing the selection here never affects the list

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/29/09 15:28 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: The ZTK no longer contains any zope.app packages. I think we should be careful to just remove the zope.app packages

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/29/09 16:23 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: but I do not think it is fair to shift that responsibility to others by forcing zope.app.* into the ZTK. That's not what happened. What just happened that the responsibility was *forced out* of the ZTK. I'm all

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/29/09 16:25 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Earlier this year we decided to refocus our efforts on the ZTK, a leaner, meaner Zope 3 with a different focus, which has code that we really use, no UI, and with cleaner dependencies. I feel a disconnect here. As I see it the ZTK is not a 'leaner,

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/29/09 16:39 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 12/29/09 16:25 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Earlier this year we decided to refocus our efforts on the ZTK, a leaner, meaner Zope 3 with a different focus, which has code that we really use, no UI, and with cleaner dependencies. I feel a disconnect

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/29/09 17:00 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 12/29/09 16:25 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Earlier this year we decided to refocus our efforts on the ZTK, a leaner, meaner Zope 3 with a different focus, which has code that we really use, no UI, and with cleaner dependencies

Re: [Zope-dev] A summary of Interfaces vs ZCA concepts

2009-12-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/17/09 16:36 , Ethan Jucovy wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: * It'd be nice if __call__ came back with a LookupError instead of a TypeError, but how to get from A to B without breakage? Maybe I've misunderstanding, but what's

Re: [Zope-dev] Generations in Zope 2

2009-12-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/15/09 11:02 , Christian Zagrodnick wrote: Hi, to get generations working in Zope 2 the following subscriber is needed: @zope.component.adapter(zope.app.appsetup.IProcessStartingEvent) def evolve_minimum(event): zope.app.generations.generations.evolve( Zope2.DB,

Re: [Zope-dev] Compression format for ZTK packages

2009-12-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
support is officially no longer desirable. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 2 Unknown

2009-12-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/6/09 02:45 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Dec 4 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Sat Dec 5 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 6 messages: 6 from Zope Tests. Unknown ---

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing.testrunner.debug.post_mortem and try/finally

2009-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
/pypi/mr.freeze ) can do this. Perhaps there is some code there you could borrow. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/30/09 13:43 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: This implies we don't want to release zope.component 4.0 for a long time yet. I think the answer should be never. :) I think never is a

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/30/09 14:45 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote: We could also say that we will clean up the API when we move to Python 3. That is a natural breaking point anyway, so it will not any extra pain for users of the ZCA.

Re: [Zope-dev] Releasing zope.browserresource

2009-11-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
yesterday. That's not a fix, it just replaced one problem with another one: it is now impossible to get your full list of packages. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] make zope.component.registry.Components inherit from dict?

2009-11-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
'. It uses the ZCA (and zope.i18n currently), but that's about it. The ZTK as it currently is implies a whole lot of Zopisms that BFG does not subscribe to. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things

Re: [Zope-dev] make zope.component.registry.Components inherit from dict?

2009-11-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2009-11-24 17:26, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2009-11-24 05:57, Martin Aspeli wrote: I whole-heartedly agree, and I think it's important that we use the momentum behind BFG (and other consumers of the ZTK) to drive the ZTK

Re: [Zope-dev] Relative path support for z3c.recipe.paster?

2009-11-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/5/09 14:18 , Jonathan Ballet wrote: Hi Adam, On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Adam GROSZERagros...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan, bin/buildout -N does not fit you? In fact, we have very strong constraints where our buildout's results are ran : most of our customers deploy this

Re: [Zope-dev] proposal: Custom schema properties

2009-10-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/25/09 15:08 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, Custom schema properties proposal = The problem is that we have a baseline project. This baseline project gets customized for each client. Each client has different (usually just a little bit)

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/12/09 01:22 , Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Hello, * 2009-10-09 15:37, Martijn Faassen wrote: I'm okay with *not* doing the split up and going with your idea, but I think eventually such a split up would simplify things. One advantage would be that someone could examine repoze.zcml and not

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.password

2009-09-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
in those databases. The hash is not a unicode string but a bytestring. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.password

2009-09-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
') That generates something entirely differently than standard SSHA1 implementations, which will break interop. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
documentation. We should actively work to create such narrative documentation. How do you define narrative documentation? Do you consider z3c.form to have narrative documentation for example? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-dev] Apache rewrite - HTTP_Host redirect issue

2009-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
anything other than port 80 or https over something other than port 443. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/15/09 10:33 , Reinout van Rees wrote: On 2009-09-11, Sebastien Douchesdou...@gmail.com wrote: Caution with the actual workflow, 2 differences between SVN and Hg : - you cannot check out partial repository - external does not exist Missing externals has been a pain point for me.

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/15/09 13:56 , Gary Poster wrote: On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: In my experience distributed SCMs add bottlenecks to development that we currently do not have in the Zope community: with both our shared svn repository and distributed SCMs everyone can branch

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
for A to do some work on it things break with this policy because it will have version 0 and can no longer satisfy the = 2.1 requirement. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] how do I only run test from one doctest .txt file?

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/10/09 11:40 , Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, I'm doing some development of zc.buildout, and I'm down to a couple of test failures. The test suite takes quite a long time to run. Using zc.recipe.testrunner, how can I limt the run to just one file? eg: File

[Zope-dev] Needed: zc.recipe.cmmi release

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
The latest zc.recipe.cmmi release started using the zc.buildout download API but does not depend on zc.buildout 1.4 or later, which broke several buildouts for me. I've fixed the dependency in r103703. Can someone make a new release? Wichert. ___

[Zope-dev] broken zope.schema dependency in z3c.form 2.1.0

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
z3c.form uses zope.schema.interfaces.IDecimal, which is not present in early versions of zope.schema as used by Zope 2.10. As far as I can tell z3c.form must have a versioned dependency on zope.schema = 3.3.0. Regards, Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
on PyPI instead of the newest, Doesn't it break all versioned dependencies on that package? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
there have been no complaints by anyone. And as Robert noted you can use a Subversion 1.4 client with a 1.5 server just fine. I think doing the server upgrade very soon (tm) shouldn't be a problem. Relative externals are handled on the svn client, not the svn server. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman

Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in the ZTK

2009-08-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/6/09 11:35 , Fabio Tranchitella wrote: I propose a (very) simple policy, which we can use to improve the current situation: * a package is part of the ZTK if the following criteria are met: - It has at least N zope developers (with commit rights) who explicitly expressed

Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in the ZTK

2009-08-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/6/09 17:44 , Fred Drake wrote: 2009/8/6 Fabio Tranchitellakob...@kobold.it: Am I correct saying that your idea is to restrict the ZTK to the packages defined as the intersection of the dependencies of zope2, zope3 and grok? ZTK = intersection ( zope2-dependencies , zope3-dependencies,

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12: mkzopeinstance, runzope and zopectl - a small proposal

2009-07-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/23/09 12:10 PM, yuppie wrote: Hi! SOFTWARE_HOME no longer exist in Zope 2.12, all the software is now somewhere on sys.path. So this no longer works in zopectl: ZDCTL=$SOFTWARE_HOME/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py exec $PYTHON $ZDCTL -C $CONFIG_FILE $@ Therefore mkzopeinstance now

Re: [Zope-dev] How to test changes to ZTK packages?

2009-06-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 6/30/09 7:03 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: It is needed for the latest-versions script as this parses XML. I consider lxml pretty much the standard tool to do XML in Python these days. Who is not using lxml? I suspect the majority of people who use OSX as their main platform try to stay as

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