RE: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
> > These are actually browser preferences, not user preferences. > can we have enable/disable table view toggle? some of us work > with slow dial > up, and waiting for a table to be rendered, especially when > there's a lot of > objects, will take some time. at least, without table, we can have > incremental page rendering. most of my users are not a patient lot :) > > or is it a none issue? I think a more workable idea would be to implement "batching" in the contents view. That won't get in for 2.3 final (we are at feature freeze and need to get the last kinks worked out and a final out), but I would expect that some experience with the new management interface tweaks will generate some other suggestions to make further improvements. We can create a fishbowl project for those and get them into 2.4. Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations www.digicool.com ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > i had the intermittent "browser displays the CSS text and not the real page" > in another situation go away by expressly setting the content type in the > linked CSS file. the first line would become... > > Yup, that sovles the CSS problem... > on 1/17/01 8:20, Martijn Pieters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If you switch to inline CSS (instead of linked CSS) this problem will go > > away. In a2 the inline/linked descision was made for you by using browser > > sniffing (which isn't very reliable as many people use filtering proxies > > these days). > > > > Netscape 4 is just way broken. I suspect that is also why Netscape > > sometimes doesn't render a page. ...but I'ev also had the problem of downloading stuff off Zope.org and having .tar.gz's coming back as text in the browser, nto nice. Again, however, hitting reload invariably brings up the File Download dialog box. Maybe there's a bug somewhere deep in Zope that means the content-type doesn't _always_ get set? cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
Martijn Pieters wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:00:57PM -0500, Brian Lloyd wrote: > > > - When you view a management screen, the frame is about 5 pixels to > > > small, which cuts off the bottom of the Zope logo. > > > > I'm looking into fixing that. > > This suddenly rings a bell; I remember now that NS4 seems to have a 'grid' > system for laying out frames. It snaps to certain sizes, and adding a few > pixels plus or minus won't get you a visible change. Sizing of frames can > only happen in larger steps. Here's a throrough description of the problem: http://www.builder.com/Authoring/Tagmania/120699/index.html HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
On Thursday 18 January 2001 05:00, Brian Lloyd wrote: > > These are actually browser preferences, not user preferences. can we have enable/disable table view toggle? some of us work with slow dial up, and waiting for a table to be rendered, especially when there's a lot of objects, will take some time. at least, without table, we can have incremental page rendering. most of my users are not a patient lot :) or is it a none issue? -- http://www.kedai.com.my/kk http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine use Zope? then you got HOPE! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
I've just tried this last version and I liked it very much. These are two quick UI-related suggestions: - To add a class property for the textarea tag on documentEdit.dtml cols=""http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:00:57PM -0500, Brian Lloyd wrote: > > - When you view a management screen, the frame is about 5 pixels to > > small, which cuts off the bottom of the Zope logo. > > I'm looking into fixing that. This suddenly rings a bell; I remember now that NS4 seems to have a 'grid' system for laying out frames. It snaps to certain sizes, and adding a few pixels plus or minus won't get you a visible change. Sizing of frames can only happen in larger steps. The annoying bit is is that it is damn hard to find the sweetspot - the setting at which both Netscape and IE will use the same frame size. Many a website at my previous employer had it's frames designed to acommodate for this (especially when using bordelress frames). -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ - ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
> - When you view a management screen, the frame is about 5 pixels to > small, which cuts off the bottom of the Zope logo. I'm looking into fixing that. > - When you resize the top frame, you get back a load of CSS (but as text > and without a content type) This didn't happen in a2. This is tied up with a known buffer-overrun bug in NS4 - we've added some workarounds that should ameliorate it for b2. > That's for the Browser Preferences option :-) It does strike me that > this is information about the logged in user, though, so why isn't it > stored against the logged in user? It's a pain getting rid of that top > frame every time I use the management interface on a different computer > ;-) I've mentioned this a few times but have never got a response, so > what am I missing? (Of course, if you could provide the API for the > browser preferences, everyone else could use it for storing thigns like > full name, address, phone number, etc ;-) These are actually browser preferences, not user preferences. For example, the prefs I set at home on my nice hi-res laptop will be different than those I have set on my work machine for things like textarea size preferences. We are specifically *not* trying to do 'user' preferences. Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
--On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 08:32:34 AM -0500 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i had the intermittent "browser displays the CSS text and not the real > page" in another situation go away by expressly setting the content type > in the linked CSS file. the first line would become... > > Note that this isn't a "cure all": it is still possible to get a buffer overflow that causes netscape to spew its garbage into the browser, IIRC. -- ethan mindlace fremen zopatista community liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
Martijn Pieters wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:07:30AM +, Chris Withers wrote: > > - When you resize the top frame, you get back a load of CSS (but as text > > and without a content type) This didn't happen in a2. > > If you switch to inline CSS (instead of linked CSS) this problem will go > away. In a2 the inline/linked descision was made for you by using browser > sniffing (which isn't very reliable as many people use filtering proxies > these days). > > Netscape 4 is just way broken. I suspect that is also why Netscape > sometimes doesn't render a page. Actually, now the preferences screen has been simplified (oversimplified?) and you can't choose whether to inline or not. You can only turn CSS on and off. :-( But I hope this will soon become a moot point. Go Mozilla! Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
ye-ha. I've checked that in. Thanks! Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jens > Vagelpohl > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments > > > i had the intermittent "browser displays the CSS text and not the > real page" > in another situation go away by expressly setting the content type in the > linked CSS file. the first line would become... > > > > jens > > > on 1/17/01 8:20, Martijn Pieters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:07:30AM +, Chris Withers wrote: > >> - When you resize the top frame, you get back a load of CSS > (but as text > >> and without a content type) This didn't happen in a2. > > > > If you switch to inline CSS (instead of linked CSS) this problem will go > > away. In a2 the inline/linked descision was made for you by > using browser > > sniffing (which isn't very reliable as many people use filtering proxies > > these days). > > > > Netscape 4 is just way broken. I suspect that is also why Netscape > > sometimes doesn't render a page. > > > ___ > Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
i had the intermittent "browser displays the CSS text and not the real page" in another situation go away by expressly setting the content type in the linked CSS file. the first line would become... jens on 1/17/01 8:20, Martijn Pieters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:07:30AM +, Chris Withers wrote: >> - When you resize the top frame, you get back a load of CSS (but as text >> and without a content type) This didn't happen in a2. > > If you switch to inline CSS (instead of linked CSS) this problem will go > away. In a2 the inline/linked descision was made for you by using browser > sniffing (which isn't very reliable as many people use filtering proxies > these days). > > Netscape 4 is just way broken. I suspect that is also why Netscape > sometimes doesn't render a page. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:07:30AM +, Chris Withers wrote: > - When you resize the top frame, you get back a load of CSS (but as text > and without a content type) This didn't happen in a2. If you switch to inline CSS (instead of linked CSS) this problem will go away. In a2 the inline/linked descision was made for you by using browser sniffing (which isn't very reliable as many people use filtering proxies these days). Netscape 4 is just way broken. I suspect that is also why Netscape sometimes doesn't render a page. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ - ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
Brian Lloyd wrote: > > Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 is now available. You can download it from > Zope.org: ...with a Win32 binary... yay! I can start testing :-) Okay, some observations from a Netscape 4.74 user on WinNT about the top frame: - When you view a management screen, the frame is about 5 pixels to small, which cuts off the bottom of the Zope logo. - When you resize the top frame, you get back a load of CSS (but as text and without a content type) This didn't happen in a2. However, neither of those things happen in IE. I should mention that I've seen the 'getting text back instead of content' thing before from Zope, usually in Netscape. The page comes back as just a stream of text, yet if you hit 'reload' it then comes back as it should. Very weird, and not always repeatable, but should I submit a bug on this? That's for the Browser Preferences option :-) It does strike me that this is information about the logged in user, though, so why isn't it stored against the logged in user? It's a pain getting rid of that top frame every time I use the management interface on a different computer ;-) I've mentioned this a few times but have never got a response, so what am I missing? (Of course, if you could provide the API for the browser preferences, everyone else could use it for storing thigns like full name, address, phone number, etc ;-) > - Michel and Amos' new QuickStart material. Where is this? > - The logout function has been implemented in a fairly minimal > way. We will try to make this nicer by final if we get time. :-) Other than the niggles, it looks great :-) cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
