[Zope] Zope.org down?

2005-10-28 Thread Jake

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[Zope] zope.org down, my fault

2000-12-04 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas:

Never try to scp a file onto itself. Especially if it's your httpd.conf.

I'll be back up in a bit.

~ethan


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Re: [Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchable list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development. list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.

2000-11-09 Thread Christian Scholz

Hi!

> * Colin Leath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001109 14:00]:
> > I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a
> > unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on.
> 
> I often work from emacs, accessing the ZODB through the Zope FTP Server
> on port 8021.  The syntax for ange-ftp is
>   /user@localhost 8021:/your/zope/object
> (you can get the space with C-q )

There is also ZopeShell:

http://www.zope.org/Members/sf/zopeshell

and e.g. Cadaver if you want to use filetransfer via webdav (but lost
the url unfortunately, but from webdav.org you should be able to find it).

My problem though with all these things is that the file you edit is not 
automatically uploaded when you save it. Usually you always have to quit
the editor and do an ftp upload yourself as the ftp (or ZopeShell) always
work on a local copy of the file and do not notice if you save it (well, how
should they do it anyway ;-))
So some sort of ftp filesystem would be nice to have :)

cheers
  Christian


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Re: [Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchable list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development. list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.

2000-11-09 Thread seb bacon

* Colin Leath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001109 14:00]:
> I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a
> unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on.

I often work from emacs, accessing the ZODB through the Zope FTP Server
on port 8021.  The syntax for ange-ftp is
  /user@localhost 8021:/your/zope/object
(you can get the space with C-q )

seb

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[Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchablelist archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.

2000-11-09 Thread Colin Leath

For the past hour and a half I have only once been able to get through to
zope.org. 
lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo is accessible, however.
A zope.org-status mailing list might be helpful, like the egroups-status
list, since Zope work is so dependent on the site.

I've been trying to read product descriptions. Is that information
available anywhere else?

Second, I thought there was a searchable archive of the zope mailing
lists. I just found it in my
bookmarks: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists.html
but I was not able to find this link on the lists.zope.org url referenced
in the mailing list digests... the list manager might want to change that.

Third,
I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a
unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on.
I have no doubt that others would rather not have to use a mouse and GUI
to work with Zope.
I have already found http://www.zope.org/Members/sf/zopeshell
But it says it does not work for 2.2

Could someone please point me to documentation about console-based zope
management? If it's easy to find on the zope site, I will find it when I
can get through again.

thanks,
Colin


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread andres

mindlace,

Check out my company's new HOWTO on an additional way to improve performance:

http://www.zope.org/Members/Mamey/mod_gzip

On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 11:38:42AM -0500, ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
> 
> Zope.org will be on hardware that stretches the notion of "commodity"
> soon, but it will be sufficient such that all 500mb of our objects can
> be floating about in ram if need be.  This should improve our
> performance drastically.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
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RE: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread Richard Folwell

> I'm also curious about the zope.org site performance. Zope is said to
> capable of a million hits per day on commodity hardware, yet zope.org
> receives only about 20% of that on its busiest days. This would not be
> remarkable except that the response times from zope.org seem to usually be
> 10 seconds or so. I am on a T-1 line and 13 hops and 80ms from the zope.org
> server.

Just did a quick check.  < 5s for a home page reload over a 45k dial-up
connecting from the UK.  I don't notice any obvious lags using a permanent
connection from work, apart from when doing searches, which is fair enough.

Richard


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Dennis Nichols wrote:
> 
> At 11/1/00 03:22 PM, Phil Harris wrote:
> >Subject says it all
> 
> Well, not here but it does seem to have fallen back one or more days.

I just sent a message explaining what happened to this list.

> I'm also curious about the zope.org site performance. Zope is said to
> capable of a million hits per day on commodity hardware, yet zope.org
> receives only about 20% of that on its busiest days. This would not be
> remarkable except that the response times from zope.org seem to usually be
> 10 seconds or so. I am on a T-1 line and 13 hops and 80ms from the zope.org
> server.

My current tracking shows that zope.org is pretty snappy until the
server gets attacked from a bunch of spiders.  Because zope.org has a
huge quantity of pages (500+MB of (packed) content and climbing), and
because objects get loaded into ram as they get accessed, accessing
*everything* on the site multiple times causes zope to load things in &
out a lot, causing it to slow down.

IOW, if you have a zope running with, say, 100 mb of content (that's
2048 50 kb pages) on a box with, say 256mb of ram, and you have your
caching policy set very liberally, then you should be able to hit 30
requests per second, or 2.5 million hits per day.

Zope.org will be on hardware that stretches the notion of "commodity"
soon, but it will be sufficient such that all 500mb of our objects can
be floating about in ram if need be.  This should improve our
performance drastically.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread Dennis Nichols

At 11/1/00 03:22 PM, Phil Harris wrote:
>Subject says it all

Well, not here but it does seem to have fallen back one or more days.

I'm also curious about the zope.org site performance. Zope is said to 
capable of a million hits per day on commodity hardware, yet zope.org 
receives only about 20% of that on its busiest days. This would not be 
remarkable except that the response times from zope.org seem to usually be 
10 seconds or so. I am on a T-1 line and 13 hops and 80ms from the zope.org 
server.

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread Bill Anderson


Works for me.

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[Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread Phil Harris

Subject says it all


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Re: [Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-14 Thread Nitin Borwankar

I haven't been able to connect for the last hour or so, either.

Nitin

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[Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-14 Thread Michael Fox



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Re: [Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-02 Thread Ewald Wasscher

Phil Harris wrote:
> 
> No, it's not just you.
> 

GRR, zope.org is down, squishdot doesn't work on Zope 2.2.0 I can't get
the PTK (0.7.1 and CVS) to work on Zope 2.2.0, can't download the
snapshot of the PTK mentioned on the list because (if someone would
mind mailing me a copy?) etc.

Ewald

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Re: [Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-02 Thread Matthew Burleigh

Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed
> etc?
> 
> Ewald Wasscher

Its up now...

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Re: [Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-02 Thread Dragan MARKOVIC

Hi

I have the same problem it look's like the server is little bit down


At 01:26 PM 8/2/00 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed
>etc?
>
>Ewald Wasscher
>
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Re: [Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-02 Thread Phil Harris

No, it's not just you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ewald Wasscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:26 PM
Subject: [Zope] zope.org down?


> Hi all,
> 
> Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed
> etc?
> 
> Ewald Wasscher
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RE: [Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-02 Thread Damien Morton

its down

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ewald
> Wasscher
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Zope] zope.org down?
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed
> etc?
> 
> Ewald Wasscher
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[Zope] zope.org down?

2000-08-02 Thread Ewald Wasscher

Hi all,

Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed
etc?

Ewald Wasscher

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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-31 Thread Diny van Gool

Hi,

After downloading the InterBase 6.0 check the version of IBConsole because
the 309 version is corrupt. When you try to connect to a database you'll
get the following message:
"error connecting to database" ... "DPB Constant (0) is unknown"

Download the 308 version of OBConsole at:

http://www.interbase.com/open/downloads/ib_download.html

Diny

At 17:57 29-7-00 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Chris Withers wrote:
>> 
>> Chris McDonough wrote:
>> > The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning).  But
>> > I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is
>> > using it, so bugs are sure to exist.
>> 
>> I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-)
>> 
>> Is interbase stable/OSS? 
>
>Yes, it has been developed by Borland/Inprise commercially for
>many years. They open-sourced it recently, going through a long
>beta period.
>
>> Where can I get it from?
>
>http://www.inprise.com
>
>> Where is the
>> InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available?
>
>See the ZopeTreasures page Beehive has set up. A nice piece of
>work in tasteful day-glo colors :-)
>
>Jan
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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-29 Thread jan

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> > The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning).  But
> > I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is
> > using it, so bugs are sure to exist.
> 
> I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-)
> 
> Is interbase stable/OSS? 

Yes, it has been developed by Borland/Inprise commercially for
many years. They open-sourced it recently, going through a long
beta period.

> Where can I get it from?

http://www.inprise.com

> Where is the
> InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available?

See the ZopeTreasures page Beehive has set up. A nice piece of
work in tasteful day-glo colors :-)

Jan

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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-26 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Anthony Baxter wrote:
> 
> >>> ethan mindlace fremen wrote
> > One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted
> > databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution.
> 
> I'm curious - why do you consider this sub-optimal?

because you have to do it manually.  You also have to anticipate where
your site will grow fastest.

Also, sometimes it forces a reorginization where there's no logical (as
opposed to technical) reason: Let's say zope.org's member section gets
in danger of growing past 2GB.  Where do I split it? Even if I decide to
split on say, member folders that start with "M", now I have to rewrite
my member-creating code ...

Anyway, it's a dumb Linux problem.
-- 
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RE: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-24 Thread Chris McDonough

See
http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/RS/InterbaseStorage/InterbaseStorage.
txt for answers to the Interbase questions and InterbaseStorage docs and
see http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/RS/InterbaseStorage to download
the InterbaseStorage product.



> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:34 AM
> To: Chris McDonough
> Cc: Ethan Fremen; Cary O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] zope.org down
> 
> 
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> > The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, 
> versioning).  But
> > I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't 
> think anyone is
> > using it, so bugs are sure to exist.
> 
> I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-)
> 
> Is interbase stable/OSS? Where can I get it from? Where is the
> InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-24 Thread Chris Withers

Chris McDonough wrote:
> The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning).  But
> I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is
> using it, so bugs are sure to exist.

I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-)

Is interbase stable/OSS? Where can I get it from? Where is the
InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available?

cheers,

Chris

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RE: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-24 Thread Chris McDonough

The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning).  But
I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is
using it, so bugs are sure to exist.

> -Original Message-
> From: ethan mindlace fremen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:11 AM
> To: Cary O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] zope.org down
> 
> 
> Cary O'Brien wrote:
> 
> > Hold on. I am confused, and I really need to understand this.
> > Why do you need a 40 gb drive to store something that might 
> get to 2GB?
> > Do thing get really big during packing?  (Thinking 
> PostgreSQL index creation
> > here, where it uses temp files for sorting, which has bit 
> me more than
> > once).  Or do you just want to keep N old versions around?
> 
> I need to have n versions for various testing purposes: this 
> is what got
> me in trouble in the first place- I was packing to try to make room. 
> The pack makes a full backup of your data, so it needs about 1.75*n
> space where n is the size of your current Data.fs
> 
> > Also, (besides "upgrade to alpha"), what is the workaround 
> for Data.fs
> > bigger than 2GB?  Are there any plans to split it across multiple
> > files? (Once again, the PostgreSQL people recently added 
> this -- database
> > files don't exceed 1GB, when the table gets that big it splits them
> > across multiple files).
> 
> One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted
> databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution.  
> Another option
> would be to store the entire zodb in a relational database, but as far
> as I know none of the products that attempt to provide that are
> full-featured.
> 
> The bottom line is that the OS should support the creation of 
> very large
> files.  Note that any of the BSD variants, or Solaris for x86, or SCO
> unix, all will let you have a ZODB larger than 2gb, assuming 
> python was
> compiled properly.
> 
> I have spent literally about 40 hours trying to get Linux to support
> large files.  While the code is integrated into kernels 2.3.27 and up,
> something still isn't quite right because I cannot get python 
> to support
> large files although I can get c to create 17GB files using lseek().
> 
> Hope that helps,
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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-24 Thread Anthony Baxter


>>> ethan mindlace fremen wrote
> One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted
> databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution. 

I'm curious - why do you consider this sub-optimal?

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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-24 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Cary O'Brien wrote:

> Hold on. I am confused, and I really need to understand this.
> Why do you need a 40 gb drive to store something that might get to 2GB?
> Do thing get really big during packing?  (Thinking PostgreSQL index creation
> here, where it uses temp files for sorting, which has bit me more than
> once).  Or do you just want to keep N old versions around?

I need to have n versions for various testing purposes: this is what got
me in trouble in the first place- I was packing to try to make room. 
The pack makes a full backup of your data, so it needs about 1.75*n
space where n is the size of your current Data.fs

> Also, (besides "upgrade to alpha"), what is the workaround for Data.fs
> bigger than 2GB?  Are there any plans to split it across multiple
> files? (Once again, the PostgreSQL people recently added this -- database
> files don't exceed 1GB, when the table gets that big it splits them
> across multiple files).

One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted
databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution.  Another option
would be to store the entire zodb in a relational database, but as far
as I know none of the products that attempt to provide that are
full-featured.

The bottom line is that the OS should support the creation of very large
files.  Note that any of the BSD variants, or Solaris for x86, or SCO
unix, all will let you have a ZODB larger than 2gb, assuming python was
compiled properly.

I have spent literally about 40 hours trying to get Linux to support
large files.  While the code is integrated into kernels 2.3.27 and up,
something still isn't quite right because I cannot get python to support
large files although I can get c to create 17GB files using lseek().

Hope that helps,
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Re: [Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)

2000-07-21 Thread Loren Stafford


- Original Message -
From: "Simon Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the
> above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in
> more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At
> least to 2.1.6 ?


My experience is that CodeIt, in order not to surprise you with unexpected
upgrades, will upgrade your Zope server when you ask.

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[Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)

2000-07-21 Thread Simon Michael

ethan mindlace fremen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, folks, zope.org is down again, because the site was packed without
> enough space on the device.
...
> To keep this from happening again, we will be adding an additional 40gb
> drive that should do us just fine until the Data.fs hits 2 GB.

This is a general problem for zope service providers and their users;
I wonder how we can resolve it ?

Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the
above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in
more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At
least to 2.1.6 ?

Best regards
-Simon

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[Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Well, folks, zope.org is down again, because the site was packed without
enough space on the device.

because the error is relatively subtle, I'm restoring from yesterday's
backup, so please check to be sure that everything you've done recently
is preserved.

To keep this from happening again, we will be adding an additional 40gb
drive that should do us just fine until the Data.fs hits 2 GB.

Sorry for the downtime,
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-29 Thread Paul Everitt

Graham Chiu wrote:
> 
> Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon.
> 
> Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking
> about doing ?

Nope, a very odd DNS situation.

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough

All,

Sorry about the downage.  We believe Zope.org and friends (the mail list
server, et. al.) were unable to be reached from about 7:30PM EST
yesterday (Friday) to 11:00AM EST today (Saturday).

Another PC on the same subnet as the primary DNS server for zope.org
took its address, and the secondary DNS didn't seem to kick in.  Or at
least that's what it looks like.

The problem has been addressed, and it looks like we're back online.

-- chris


Graham Chiu wrote:
> 
> Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon.
> 
> Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking
> about doing ?
> 
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-28 Thread Ken Manheimer

On Sat, 27 May 2000, Graham Chiu wrote:

> Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon.  
> 
> Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking
> about doing ?

No - some neighbors on our colo misclaimed our addresses.  I'll let
someone who knows the situation better fill in the details, but we seem to
be back.

(I haven't heard about a friday afternoon switchover to ZEO - was that
just a bit of fun?-)

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-28 Thread Martijn Pieters

On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 07:39:58PM +1300, Graham Chiu wrote:
> Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon.  
> 
> Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking
> about doing ?

No, we had a somewhat severe DNS problem.

The zope.org domain nameserver happens to be the machine that also hosts
classic.zope.org, lists.zope.org and cvs.zope.org. This machine went down, and
then had network problems when rebooted by the co-location facilities.

Also, our secondairy nameserver, that should've provided failover in this
case, was misconfigured, and didn't play its role.

As a result of this all, noone could resolve the domain 'zope.org'.

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton

+[ Graham Chiu ]-
| 
| Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon.  
| 
| Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking
| about doing ?

Dunno, but, their nameservers have been dead until just recently too,
but, they're both on the same /24 so perhaps network problems more than 
anything else.

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[Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-27 Thread Graham Chiu


Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon.  

Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking
about doing ?


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-05-17 Thread Alexandre Ratti

Hi Alexander,


The Howto and Tip PDF compilations are available there:

<http://alexandre.ratti.free.fr/ZopeDocs/>.

You can download both files and browse them offline.

Main download URL is on the Zope site:

<http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/ZopeDocs/>.

It's not a true mirror since both compilations are only updated once a month.


Cheers.

Alexandre


At 12:00 17/05/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:37:04 +0900
>From: Alexander Schonfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?
>
>It might be cool if someone would mirror the docs at least, howtos et
>all.  Or is there a mirror already?
>
>Alex.


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