Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: CMFonFive and CMF 1.6

2006-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/5/06, Rob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lennart Regebro wrote:
> > And CMF 1.6 already has more changes that just GenericSetup, some of
> > which are already causing me other headaches.
>
> which are these?  the most significant changes are in the TypesTool, and
> this was done in order to achieve more parity btn the 1.6 and 2.0 site
> creation code...  there's nothing that i know of that's not directly
> related to the GenericSetup stuff.

Yeah, well that's it. And here I am trying to achieve more parity
between 1.6 and 2.0. [ Well, now I'm only teasing you on accord of the
wobbly argumentation. ;-) ]

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: CMFonFive and CMF 1.6

2006-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/5/06, Rob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> maybe i'm being dense, but i don't see how merging the code into the CMF
> core improves this.  if i'm understanding this correctly, you wouldn't
> be increasing the number of supported combinations at all;

No, I'd just get rid of a whole lot of potential version combinations,
thereby lessening the support headache that this already is. Although
I admittedly can handle that problem by completely ignoring it, which
seems to be the preferred option here. And I just realized that Five
1.3 and Five in 1.2 differs much more than I thought too. Glaaah. :-P

And CMF 1.6 already has more changes that just GenericSetup, some of
which are already causing me other headaches.

I guess my main problem is that everything else is currently changing
so fast that I don't have time to keep up with the changes, and the
more stuff I fix, the more stuff seems to remain to be fixed. CalZope
2.0 (which is needed for the CalPlone implementation) just looks
further and further away. :-/

> anyway, it's moot, since you've agreed to keep it a separate product for
> now.  thank you.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean I like it. :-)

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: CMFonFive and CMF 1.6

2006-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/5/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry I didn't follow this discussion closely, so you want to merge
> the last remnants of CMFonFive into CMF 1.6 and 2.0, is that the
> suggestion?

It's already merged into CMF 2.0 (although it's not actuall *working* yet. ;) )
So it's only 1.6 that is the question yet. The result would be that
CMF 1.6 would only support one major version of Zope, which I guess
would be 2.9, which doesn't seem to sit well with the Plone community.

Anyway, I'll release a CMFonFive 1.3 today, which will work with Zope
2.9, and CMF 1.5.5, and should work with CMF 1.6 (although I haven't
tried it yet).
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Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: CMFonFive and CMF 1.6

2006-01-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 5 Jan 2006, at 09:40, Lennart Regebro wrote:


this makes sense.  i'm -1 on the final CMFonFive piece landing in CMF
1.6 itself, though.  the original scope for CMF 1.6 was "CMF 1.5 +
GenericSetup", i don't see a compelling reason to complicate  
things by
expanding that scope.  if CMFonFive stays separate, then you can  
code it
to support only Zope 2.9 without having to impose this same  
restriction

on the CMF core.


Well, it doesn't make sense, because it continues a complex versioning
dance, and leaves many combinations unsupported, but if nobody else
wants that fixed, then I won't fix it. :-)

And it doesn't really complicate things by expanding any scope, it
just moves a bit of code from on product to another.


Sorry I didn't follow this discussion closely, so you want to merge  
the last remnants of CMFonFive into CMF 1.6 and 2.0, is that the  
suggestion?


jens

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: CMFonFive and CMF 1.6

2006-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
> this makes sense.  i'm -1 on the final CMFonFive piece landing in CMF
> 1.6 itself, though.  the original scope for CMF 1.6 was "CMF 1.5 +
> GenericSetup", i don't see a compelling reason to complicate things by
> expanding that scope.  if CMFonFive stays separate, then you can code it
> to support only Zope 2.9 without having to impose this same restriction
> on the CMF core.

Well, it doesn't make sense, because it continues a complex versioning
dance, and leaves many combinations unsupported, but if nobody else
wants that fixed, then I won't fix it. :-)

And it doesn't really complicate things by expanding any scope, it
just moves a bit of code from on product to another.

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