Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF collector on Launchpad?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14 Aug 2007, at 21:42, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: I'll dare to speak out the unthinkable and as an alternative option suggest to move the CMF bug tracker to a trac instance hosted on plone.org. A common user database between the Plone and CMF bug trackers is a bigger benefit than the common user base between CMF and Zope I think. But maybe our two communities still don't overlap enough for that idea to work out ;) +1 - for every CMF bug we probably get a report or two as well. I'm not saying keep them in the same tracker, but having http:// dev.plone.org/cmf might be easier for all parties involved. At least I'm assuming it's not too much work for Wichert & co to get it set up and migrating the old issues (we migrated plone.org's CMFCollector instance), and if the CMF folks don't like Launchpad, then Trac's at least pretty good, gives you a wiki should you want it, and (a great benefit for me) a good SVN browser. Let's please keep this on topic - this is not about moving the CMF collector in general, it's specifically about the Launchpag guys offer to move it there. Otherwise there is no real need to move it elsewhere. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGwpkgRAx5nvEhZLIRAkx8AKCkyPwiFmPtFcLo1xbq0yUyzdYYcgCdEWac xrx4/uE4VbwkRve2mwWrIyg= =rGoU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF collector on Launchpad?
--On 13. August 2007 10:49:36 +0200 Hanno Schlichting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A common user database between the Plone and CMF bug trackers is a bigger benefit than the common user base between CMF and Zope I think. But maybe our two communities still don't overlap enough for that idea to work out ;) -1 Andreas pgpih559rVnZj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF collector on Launchpad?
Previously Charlie Clark wrote: > Andrew Milton has at least done a wrapper so you can run Trac on a > Zope site. But having spent some time on Trac I would be against > using it in its current form for a product as complex as the CMF. It > has an appalling data model which is simply not suited to any form of > dependency. I'ld counter that Plone is a lot more complex than CMF and Trac is working great for it. > I think there's merit in having some form of connection Zope -> CMF - > > Plone for reporting bugs in which case I would be in favour of > either modifying Collector or Launchpad for our needs. The only system which currently would support that is having all of those in LaunchPad as far as I know. I don't think Trac's multi-tracker support is up to that yet. And that is not going to happen since Plone is quite happy with Trac and has no interest in moving to another system at the moment. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF collector on Launchpad?
Am 13.08.2007 um 10:49 schrieb Hanno Schlichting: I'm +0.5 on moving away from anything on zope.org. I find the collector UI and speed suboptimal to work with. Launchpad provides a reasonable good bug tracker from my experience (I mostly reported bugs against the launchpad translation system itself in the past ;)). Personally I find trac a lot more efficient to work with, though. But it's UI is definitely geared towards developers (which is in the end the prime target group for CMF). Trac certainly *looks* good and has done to highlight usability deficiences of other bug trackers such as Bugzilla and Collector. I'll dare to speak out the unthinkable and as an alternative option suggest to move the CMF bug tracker to a trac instance hosted on plone.org. Andrew Milton has at least done a wrapper so you can run Trac on a Zope site. But having spent some time on Trac I would be against using it in its current form for a product as complex as the CMF. It has an appalling data model which is simply not suited to any form of dependency. A common user database between the Plone and CMF bug trackers is a bigger benefit than the common user base between CMF and Zope I think. But maybe our two communities still don't overlap enough for that idea to work out ;) I think there's merit in having some form of connection Zope -> CMF - > Plone for reporting bugs in which case I would be in favour of either modifying Collector or Launchpad for our needs. I've not posted or dealt with a great many bugs but have not found the form of the Collector to be a big problem. It's certainly easier to use than Bugzilla. What is often a greater issue is actually tackling bugs that do get submitted. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 GSM: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
