[Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the thread, here's a handy summary: * please construct guidelines for updating the ZTK when making a release of a package that's managed by the ZTK project. It's useful people test

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Martijn, On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the thread, here's a handy summary: Thank you very much for your suggestions. I'm sure the release team

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi Martijn, On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the thread, here's a handy summary: Thank you very much for your

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi Martijn, On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Tres Seaver wrote: One issue with insta-updates to ztk.cfg is that ongoing development of a package can be in real tension with the needs of ZTK consumers for stability in the package set. Since there are no ZTK releases Grok and BlueBream gain stability by pinning to a

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 20:13, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Since there are no ZTK releases Grok and BlueBream gain stability by pinning to a particular revision of ztk.cfg (and moving it forward when needed). Zope 2 could easily do the same. If more is needed, then a branch or

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 20:13, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Since there are no ZTK releases Grok and BlueBream gain stability by pinning to a particular revision of ztk.cfg (and moving it forward when needed). Zope 2 could easily do the same. If more is

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 21:57, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: I think the list needs to commit to something If it needs to commit to what packages are included, then there is no reason to call it an alpha, and also, we can't do it now. So then the status persists with the users of

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Christophe Combelles
Thanks for these suggestions. This is *exactly* what we (the ztk release team) need. Are there other recommendations from other people? Martijn Faassen a écrit : Hi there, Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the thread, here's a

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Christophe Combelles wrote: Thanks for these suggestions. This is *exactly* what we (the ztk release team) need. How wonderfully diplomatic and constructive, my compliments! The release team (you, Hanno and JW) look good to me. * please let these guidelines not block most updates by

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi again, One more suggestion I can make is a way to get an integrated changelog for lists of packages such as the ZTK. Right now it's hard to track what kind of changes there have been in the ZTK as a whole; you have to go through all packages. If there were a way to generate a unified