Re: [Zope-dev] [zopeproject] ZODB3 specified, but ZODB3 3.9.0-dev-r77011 egg still attempted?!

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Brandon Craig Rhodes wrote: [buildout] ... versions = versions Should we write something like Grok for buildout, so that it just uses sections without having to have them doubly declared up at the top? :-) Heh, nah, this was a fair cop. I *did* actually know about this, was just a silly

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Then, we could get rid of the {get|query}[Multi]Adapter altogether and consistently use I() with appropriate optional parameters -- what a simplification and homogenization :-) Yeah, but since when has simplification or homogenisation been a goal of Zope 3? ;-) Chris

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim is heavily defending this difference. I am convinced that the difference should not be there fork anyone? ;-) but meanwhile have found a use case for it. Suppose, you have a class C that implements I. If queryAdapter would behave like I(...), you would

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.recipe.testrunner/trunk/src/zc/recipe/testrunner/README.txt made doctest sections from the literal sections

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Benji York wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Michael Howitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log message for revision 90184: made doctest sections from the literal sections Thanks for removing the unneccesary -- and inappropriate Why are they unneccesary and inappropriate? These are what

Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. I'd hazard a guess at yet another brown bag release that now no-one wants to remove for the same stupid reasons that are always parrotted as soon

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.size/trunk/bootstrap.py Added support to bootstrap on Jython.

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Benji York wrote: It'll have to be an external to svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zc.buildout/trunk/bootstrap since Subversion doesn't do externals to individual files. The zope.introspector project is one example taking this approach:

[Zope-dev] ZPT and strict namespace mapping

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Trying to get a feeling here on whether we want to require proper XML namespace definition (current z3c.pt behavior) or implicitly fallback to the standard mappings (current zope.pagetemplate behavior). \malthe ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT and strict namespace mapping

2008-08-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 29. August 2008 12:31:21 +0200 Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to get a feeling here on whether we want to require proper XML namespace definition (current z3c.pt behavior) or implicitly fallback to the standard mappings (current zope.pagetemplate behavior). Can you

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - extraction from sequence widget

2008-08-29 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Donnerstag 28 August 2008 23:55:24 schrieb Martin Aspeli: Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: Am Donnerstag 28 August 2008 02:35:28 schrieb Marius Gedminas: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 05:15:48PM -0700, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2008, Martin Aspeli wrote: This means that if the

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing.doctest bug

2008-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Benji York wrote: For the forked doctest in zope.testing, the Zope 3 project's bug tracker in Launchpad would be appropriate. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.testing/+bug/262578 I suspect Python's doctest has the same bug; checking that and reporting the bug to them would be good too.

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - extraction from sequence widget

2008-08-29 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Donnerstag 28 August 2008 17:45:58 schrieb Marius Gedminas: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 05:26:20PM +0200, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: Am Donnerstag 28 August 2008 10:14:11 schrieb Martin Aspeli: What about the case when you have a list of options of which you need to chose one or more? In

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 1 Unknown

2008-08-29 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Aug 28 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Fri Aug 29 11:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Unknown --- Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 28 20:43:02 EDT 2008 URL:

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT and strict namespace mapping

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
2008/8/29 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On 29. August 2008 12:31:21 +0200 Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to get a feeling here on whether we want to require proper XML namespace definition (current z3c.pt behavior) or implicitly fallback to the standard mappings (current

Re: [Zope-dev] Failing Zope 2.8 / Python 2.3 tests on your box

2008-08-29 Thread Stefan H. Holek
The Python 2.3 on that box hasn't changed in a while, and the encodings module works, at least interactively. $ /usr/local/python2.3/bin/python Python 2.3.6 (#1, Nov 11 2006, 11:08:56) [GCC 4.0.2 (Debian 4.0.2-2)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT and strict namespace mapping

2008-08-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 29. August 2008 13:20:38 +0200 Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/29 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On 29. August 2008 12:31:21 +0200 Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to get a feeling here on whether we want to require proper XML namespace definition

Re: [Zope-dev] Failing Zope 2.8 / Python 2.3 tests on your box

2008-08-29 Thread Stefan H. Holek
What I have found out now is that in my Python 2.3.6 encodings/ __init__.py does not contain 'import aliases' at module level, whereas the Python 2.4 lib has this import. The patch does this: import encodings encodings._aliases = encoding.aliases.aliases which does therefore not work in 2.3.

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - extraction from sequence widget

2008-08-29 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Hermann Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - extraction from sequence widget [...] I think you *could* interpret it so that a boolean field that's required really means you have to tick this box (e.g. an I agree to these terms and conditions type scenario). My idea is to look at

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.size/trunk/bootstrap.py Added support to bootstrap on Jython.

2008-08-29 Thread Benji York
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benji York wrote: It'll have to be an external to svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zc.buildout/trunk/bootstrap since Subversion doesn't do externals to individual files. The zope.introspector project is one example

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.recipe.testrunner/trunk/src/zc/recipe/testrunner/README.txt made doctest sections from the literal sections

2008-08-29 Thread Benji York
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benji York wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Michael Howitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log message for revision 90184: made doctest sections from the literal sections Thanks for removing the unneccesary -- and

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT and strict namespace mapping

2008-08-29 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:31:21PM +0200, Malthe Borch wrote: Trying to get a feeling here on whether we want to require proper XML namespace definition (current z3c.pt behavior) or implicitly fallback to the standard mappings (current zope.pagetemplate behavior). Requiring explicit XML

[Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-08-29 Thread Roger Ineichen
I'll try to make the ISource API smooth and usable for other components. Right now ISource provides no simple API for work with terms. Since a ISource only provides a __contains__ method and the IterableSource the __iter__ method, there is some more needed which makes it easy to work with terms

Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module

2008-08-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martijn Faassen wrote: I just looked at the PyPI page of 'transaction': http://pypi.python.org/pypi/transaction And I see some weirdnesses: * it's called 'transaction 1.0a1' * the 'changes' claim however: 1.0 (unreleased) What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the

Re: [Zope-dev] Failing Zope 2.8 / Python 2.3 tests on your box

2008-08-29 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:05, Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I have found out now is that in my Python 2.3.6 encodings/ __init__.py does not contain 'import aliases' at module level, whereas the Python 2.4 lib has this import. The patch does this: import encodings

Re: [Zope-dev] Failing Zope 2.8 / Python 2.3 tests on your box

2008-08-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan H. Holek wrote: What I have found out now is that in my Python 2.3.6 encodings/ __init__.py does not contain 'import aliases' at module level, whereas the Python 2.4 lib has this import. The patch does this: import encodings

Re: [Zope-dev] Failing Zope 2.8 / Python 2.3 tests on your box

2008-08-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Pieters wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:05, Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I have found out now is that in my Python 2.3.6 encodings/ __init__.py does not contain 'import aliases' at module level, whereas the Python 2.4

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log message for revision 90599: Move test-dependencies to 'extras'. This is a controversial change; can we avoid making changes like this until a policy is agreed upon? The controversy surrounding this has been discussed

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Fred Drake wrote: This is a controversial change; can we avoid making changes like this until a policy is agreed upon? The controversy surrounding this has been discussed on zope-dev several times; I don't want to rehash it *right now*, since we all have things we need to get done. I

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. Oh, there is! If you can advise a different way to avoid pulling in

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Fred Drake wrote: There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what you test, test dependencies can't be eliminated. I understand, but this

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependenciesto 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Fred Betreff: Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependenciesto 'extras'. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log message for revision 90599: Move test-dependencies to 'extras'. This is a controversial change; can we avoid

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:59:24PM +0200, Malthe Borch wrote: Fred Drake wrote: There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what you

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependenciesto 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependenciesto 'extras'. Fred Drake wrote: There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show whether there are problems when it's

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Movetest-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Marius Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Movetest-dependencies to 'extras'. [...] I understand, but this particular dependency pulls in the world, all 76 packages. I'll revert the change; it seems we're about to have a fork the size of the emacs/xemacs

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. Oh, there is!

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT and strict namespace mapping

2008-08-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Malthe Borch wrote: Trying to get a feeling here on whether we want to require proper XML namespace definition (current z3c.pt behavior) or implicitly fallback to the standard mappings (current zope.pagetemplate behavior). +1 for requiring proper XML namespace. Tools like xmllint

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-08-29 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2008-8-29 10:25 +0100: Dieter Maurer wrote: Then, we could get rid of the {get|query}[Multi]Adapter altogether and consistently use I() with appropriate optional parameters -- what a simplification and homogenization :-) Yeah, but since when has simplification or