Re: [Zope-dev] Core dumps - How to find out the bug?
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?= wrote I only have core dumps to work from. I include the stack from latest core dump. I am using python 2.1.2 (release), Zope2.4.3 release, RedHat Linux 7.2. Python is compiled --without-pymalloc Hm. The bug report you sent is pretty much exactly what I'd expect when hitting the Python Compiler stacksize bug. I suspect the problem here is that Zope 2.4.3 provides it's own complete copy of the Compiler, so you're not seeing Jeremy's fixes. Possible solutions: - wait for Zope 2.4.4 - upgrade to the current CVS version of the Zope 2.4 branch, Zope-2_4-branch. This contains what will become (hopefully, shortly) 2.4.4. I'm assuming there's a 2.4.4 planned. - upgrade to the current 2.5 beta. - #0 0x0806fb77 in subtract_refs (containers=0x80b228c) at ./Modules/gcmodule.c:170 #1 0x0806ff74 in collect (young=0x80b228c, old=0x80b2298) at ./Modules/gcmodule.c:382 #2 0x080701c2 in collect_generations () at ./Modules/gcmodule.c:479 Anthony -- Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Hallo, after switching to python 2.1.2 compiled with GC (intranet:/usr/local/src/Python-2.1.2 # ./configure --without-pymalloc) the crashes are back again :-((( - 2002-01-04T06:23:51 ERROR(200) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Jan 4 07:23:51 2002: Aiieee! 9671 exited with error code: 11 2002-01-04T07:25:48 ERROR(200) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Jan 4 08:25:48 2002: Aiieee! 10107 exited with error code: 11 2002-01-04T07:30:45 ERROR(200) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Jan 4 08:30:45 2002: Aiieee! 10412 exited with error code: 11 2002-01-21T08:30:43 ERROR(200) zdaemon zdaemon: Mon Jan 21 09:30:43 2002: Aiieee! 6749 exited with error code: 11 - What is the way to finaly fix the problem regards Harald Matthew T. Kromer wrote: Harald Koschinski wrote: same for me, no more crashes - but zope needs very much memory (logo :-(() I will try know python 2.1.2. OK -- our Zope 2.5.0 betas 3 and 4 have a binary python in them that contains the critical ceval.c patch. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Harald Koschinski wrote Hallo, after switching to python 2.1.2 compiled with GC (intranet:/usr/local/src/Python-2.1.2 # ./configure --without-pymalloc) the crashes are back again :-((( Which version of Zope? Does it have the RestrictedCompiler fix? As far as I am aware, Zope 2.4 includes it's own version of the Compiler code, and the current release of 2.4 still has the stacksize bug. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Core dumps - How to find out the bug?
Dario - I had faced similar problems ... try the following thread for help http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/zope-Dev/940742 on how to trap the error on a running process. For linux, you need the command strace ... here is one url http://www.pugcentral.org/howto/truss.htm Once you have the core file, you should invoke gdb like this ... gdb program core where program is the path to the python executable and core is the core file. Then, type info threads to see which thread and where the problem occured in zope/python. - j ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] REQUEST.AUTHENTICATED_USER question
the user gets modified automatically, provided you use common login-methodology and a user folder that supports it. you don't set the user manually. jens On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 12:35 , vio wrote: Hi, Does anybody know what is the method call to modify the AUTHENTICATED_USER attribute? I am unable to trace where REQUEST feeds data for its AUTHENTICATED_USER attribute. Some context to my question: I am using a custom method to authenticate users coming to my site. So when the user logs in, he is 'Anonymous User' (from call: AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName()). But after his login name and password checked ok, how do I switch his identity in Zope from 'Anonymous User' to his/her new identity? What I am looking for is that next time I call 'REQUEST.AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName()' to get the new UserName he just logged in as, not 'Anonymous User' again. Examining CookieCrumbler.py source, this authentication product uses the 'before_publishing_traverse hook' mechanism. But isn't there a simpler way to do this than modifying REQUEST.RESPONSE at each traversal? Sounds like a lot of overhead. Vio ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, there is still a compiler module bug in Zope 2.4.3 that will cause crashing under any Python version. Please wait for Zope 2.4.4 (ETA unknown) or upgrade to Zope 2.5.0b4 (which already has the fix). - C - Original Message - From: Harald Koschinski To: Anthony Baxter Cc: Matthew T. Kromer ; Leonardo Rochael Almeida ; Ralph Arenz ; zope-dev Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:23 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!! Anthony Baxter wrote: Harald Koschinski wrote Hallo,after switching to python 2.1.2 compiled with GC (intranet:/usr/local/src/Python-2.1.2 # ./configure --without-pymalloc)the crashes are back again :-((( Which version of Zope? 2.4.3 Does it have the RestrictedCompiler fix? Good question - next question please :-((( I am again a little bit confused - I thought that the problem is only in the GC module of Python because zope is running without any crashes when I disable GC. As far as I am aware, Zope 2.4 includes it's own version of theCompiler code, and the current release of 2.4 still has the stacksizebug.Anthony Matthew: Can you give the final answer ??? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Problem in strating zope server
Hi all, I m installing Zope 4.2.1 on linux.After getting it installed, when its strated it strats and gives the port it is listening to. But when i access it through browser then there is no connection established with the server. It gives following output while installing and starting. [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# cd var [root@EP var]# ls -l total 80 -rw-r--r--1 506 users 75448 Jan 21 2001 Data.fs.in [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# ls -l total 92 drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 Extensions -rw-r--r--1 506 users3026 Sep 4 18:54 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r--1 506 users 987 Apr 29 1999 README.txt drwxr-xr-x4 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 ZServer drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 bin drwxr-xr-x4 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 doc drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 import drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 inst -rwxr-xr-x1 506 users 225 Jul 23 1999 install drwxr-xr-x4 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 lib drwxr-xr-x8 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 pcgi drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 utilities drwxrwxr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 var -rw-r--r--1 506 users 25607 Jun 18 19:19 z2.py -rw-r--r--1 506 users9546 Dec 8 2000 zpasswd.py ## [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# ./install -u ep -g users -- Compiling python modules File "/home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/lib/python2.1/test/nocaret.py", line 2 [x for x in x] = x SyntaxError: can't assign to list comprehension SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future3.py, line 3) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future4.py, line 3) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future5.py, line 4) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future6.py, line 3) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future7.py, line 3) -- -- creating default inituser file Note: The initial user name and password are 'admin' and 'IaejsWAa'. You can change the name and password through the web interface or using the 'zpasswd.py' script. chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/inituser chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/inituser chmod 0660 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/inituser chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var chmod 0771 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var -- setting dir permissions -- creating default database chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var/Data.fs chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var/Data.fs chmod 0660 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var/Data.fs -- Writing the pcgi resource file (ie cgi script), /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi chmod 0775 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi -- Creating start script, start chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/start chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/start chmod 0771 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/start -- Creating stop script, stop chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/stop chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/stop chmod 0771 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/stop -- Done! ## [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# ls -l total 136 drwxrwxr-x2 ep users4096 Sep 4 19:18 Extensions -rw-r--r--1 506 users3026 Sep 4 18:54 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r--1 506 users 987 Apr 29 1999 README.txt drwxrwxr-x4 ep users4096 Oct 17 18:44 ZServer -rwxrwxr-x1 ep users 501 Oct 17 18:44 Zope.cgi drwxrwxr-x2 ep users4096 Sep 4 19:18 bin drwxrwxr-x4 ep users4096 Sep 4 19:18 doc drwxrwxr-x2 ep users4096 Sep 4 19:18 import -rw-rw1 ep users 39 Oct 17 18:44 inituser drwxrwxr-x2 ep users4096 Oct 17 18:44 inst -rwxr-xr-x1 506 users
Re: [Zope-dev] Problem in strating zope server
Man, that was painful to read. *Please* send plaintext, not HTML. Your server appears to be listening on port 8080. Looks like a normal startup to me. I suspect you're trying to access Zope via localhost which won't work in your case because you're limiting the port to something via -P. Try this instead: ./start -u ep - Original Message - From: sanjay singh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:33 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Problem in strating zope server Hi all, I m installing Zope 4.2.1 on linux.After getting it installed, when its strated it strats and gives the port it is listening to. But when i access it through browser then there is no connection established with the server. It gives following output while installing and starting. [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# cd var [root@EP var]# ls -l total 80 -rw-r--r--1 506 users 75448 Jan 21 2001 Data.fs.in [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# ls -l total 92 drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 Extensions -rw-r--r--1 506 users3026 Sep 4 18:54 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r--1 506 users 987 Apr 29 1999 README.txt drwxr-xr-x4 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 ZServer drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 bin drwxr-xr-x4 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 doc drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 import drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 inst -rwxr-xr-x1 506 users 225 Jul 23 1999 install drwxr-xr-x4 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 lib drwxr-xr-x8 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 pcgi drwxr-xr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 utilities drwxrwxr-x2 506 users4096 Sep 4 19:18 var -rw-r--r--1 506 users 25607 Jun 18 19:19 z2.py -rw-r--r--1 506 users9546 Dec 8 2000 zpasswd.py ## [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# ./install -u ep -g users -- Compiling python modules File /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/lib/python2.1/test/nocaret.py, line 2 [x for x in x] = x SyntaxError: can't assign to list comprehension SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future3.py, line 3) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future4.py, line 3) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future5.py, line 4) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future6.py, line 3) SyntaxError: from __future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file (test_future7.py, line 3) -- -- creating default inituser file Note: The initial user name and password are 'admin' and 'IaejsWAa'. You can change the name and password through the web interface or using the 'zpasswd.py' script. chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/inituser chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/inituser chmod 0660 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/inituser chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var chmod 0771 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var -- setting dir permissions -- creating default database chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var/Data.fs chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var/Data.fs chmod 0660 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/var/Data.fs -- Writing the pcgi resource file (ie cgi script), /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi chmod 0775 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/Zope.cgi -- Creating start script, start chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/start chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/start chmod 0771 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/start -- Creating stop script, stop chgrp users /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/stop chown ep /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/stop chmod 0771 /home/ep/zope/Zope2.4.1/stop -- Done! ## [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# [root@EP Zope2.4.1]# ls -l total 136 drwxrwxr-x2 ep users4096 Sep 4 19:18 Extensions -rw-r--r--1 506 users3026 Sep 4 18:54 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r--1 506 users 987
[Zope-dev] Zope 2.4.4, when?
Guys, please, We really need 2.4.4 and our client won't accept a CVS version. 2.5 betas won't do it either. What is holding 2.4.4 back? Is there anything you need help with? testing? bugfix? Cheers, Leo -- Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] REQUEST.AUTHENTICATED_USER question
the user folder does this switch. it's not something you should do
manually.
by the way, since replying to your previous email to me bounced back
([EMAIL PROTECTED] is unknown) i'm uncluding that here:
**
vio,
i'm not sure what user folder products you were looking at, the
CookieCrumbler is *not* a user folder.
normal user folders do not use BeforeTraverse.
look at the source for the stock user folder
(lib/python/AccessControl.User.py), it is pretty much the simplest
implementation around.
jens
On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 09:23 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But setting the user 'programmatically' is precisely the point of a custom
login method. If I can't set the user programatically inside my code, what'
s the point in a 'custom' login method then? Anyway, I know it'
s feasable, because all the other 'customised' login products are doing
precisely that (after each authenticating the user in their own specific
way). And Zope does it in module HTTPResponse.HTTPResponse.unauthorised()
(called with REQUEST['RESPONSE'].unauthorised()). But I haven't totally
figured it out how that works (how Zope switches user
identities ?). And the two 'custom UserFolder' products I've
examined both seem to use ZPublisher.BeforeTraverse to 'make' this switch
happen, somehow. Hence my question to this list: not 'if' the user can be
switched (not 'manually' but 'programmatically'), but 'HOW'!
Cheers,
Vio
***
jens
On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 10:32 , vio wrote:
The point in a customised login method is precisely to do just that:
validate
user credentials with some custom scheme. If interested, this is trivial
to do
with a valid UserFolder instance around:
'if my_custon_loginForm_password ==
Users_folder.getUser(my_custon_loginForm_loginName)._getPassword(): and
here SWITCH to the authenticated new user identity'.And Voila! No sweat.
But I just don't know nor understand how to do that switch
yet, 'programmatically'.
* Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020121 09:02]:
the user gets modified automatically, provided you use common
login-methodology and a user folder that supports it.
You must be referring to the routine
HTTPResponse.HTTPResponse.unauthorised(),
called with REQUEST.RESPONSE.unauthorised(). It just happens that I really
don't like that 'Basic Authentication' dialog, that's why I want to use
mine.
So I've done half of the job to that end, only remaining problem is to
switch
'programmatically' to the new authenticated user id. Doing something like
'REQUEST['AUTHENTICATED_USER'] = my_custon_loginForm_loginName' seems to
have
no effect, because the user is still 'Anonymous User' (found with
'AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName()'). If only I could understand where
REQUEST
gets its data for its 'AUTHENTICATED_USER' attribute, I could simply
change
that data source, and I'd be done. But I don't still understand how
REQUEST
gets all the data to its attributes.
you don't set the user manually.
Of course you do ('programmatically' not 'manually'), as proven by all the
customised 'login' products out there, who are doing just that.
Only the one I studied so far
(CookieCrumbler) seems to re-write the REQUEST.RESPONSE at each traversal.
Which to me seems like a lot of overhead. If someone could point me to
where
Zope keeps user state (I believe with a cookie on the user's browser,
but where in the source does Zope set this cookie up?),
I could simply re-write that cookie with the new User ID ... Just a
thought of a simple and elegant solution (aka 'magic bullet') for my
problem.
Vio
jens
On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 12:35 , vio wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody know what is the method call to modify the
AUTHENTICATED_USER attribute? I am unable to trace where REQUEST feeds
data for its AUTHENTICATED_USER attribute.
Some context to my question: I am using a custom method to authenticate
users coming to my site. So when the user logs in, he is 'Anonymous
User'
(from call: AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName()). But after his login name
and password checked ok, how do I switch his identity in Zope from
'Anonymous User' to his/her new identity? What I am looking for is that
next time I call 'REQUEST.AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName()' to get the
new UserName he just logged in as, not 'Anonymous User' again.
Examining CookieCrumbler.py source, this authentication product uses the
'before_publishing_traverse hook' mechanism. But isn't there a simpler
way to do this than modifying REQUEST.RESPONSE at each traversal? Sounds
like a lot of overhead.
Vio
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[Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Harald Koschinski wrote: Anthony Baxter wrote: Harald Koschinski wrote Hallo, after switching to python 2.1.2 compiled with GC (intranet:/usr/local/src/Python-2.1.2 # ./configure --without-pymalloc) the crashes are back again :-((( Which version of Zope? 2.4.3 Does it have the RestrictedCompiler fix? Good question - next question please :-((( I am again a little bit confused - I thought that the problem is only in the GC module of Python because zope is running without any crashes when I disable GC. As far as I am aware, Zope 2.4 includes it's own version of the Compiler code, and the current release of 2.4 still has the stacksize bug. Anthony Matthew: Can you give the final answer ??? 2.4.4 (which should be mostly the equivalent of the Zope-2_4-branch in our CVS) hasn't been extensively tested. There are a LOT of things that I'm aware of that _can_ cause crashes, ie in MySQL when the database object switches threads, it can get unhappy (I think something in MySQL may have thread-local state). Unfortunately, I can't speculate on exactly WHICH problem is causing the seg faults, because they don't occur in-house (except for the one compiler bug which we were able to reproduce.) I am notionally toying with the idea of spending some evening hours attempting to come up with some kind of Linux-enabled crash capturing package, but this is not necessarily going to be trivial, and I dont know exactly how I want it to work. (Ie the proper way is to be able to validate all pointers etc, from the stack frame trace on a sig 11 signal handler etc.. but that may require some assembly glue). ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.4.4, when?
At 09:10 AM 1/21/02, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: Guys, please, We really need 2.4.4 and our client won't accept a CVS version. 2.5 betas won't do it either. I think that's the case in many environments, mine included. I've been seriously considering rolling 2.3.3 back out just for the long uptimes (2months) I was getting. In the meantime does anyone have a good monitoring script that can check Zope with wget or something and issue a service zope restart when appropriate? What is holding 2.4.4 back? Is there anything you need help with? testing? bugfix? Yes, what do you need help with? Need someone to thoroughly audit all the changes between 2.4.3 and Zope-2_4-branch for example? I'm going to have to do this, and roll a new .src.rpm for my own use anyway Adam. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Matthew T. Kromer wrote 2.4.4 (which should be mostly the equivalent of the Zope-2_4-branch in our CVS) hasn't been extensively tested. There are a LOT of things that I'm aware of that _can_ cause crashes, ie in MySQL when the database object switches threads, it can get unhappy (I think something in MySQL may have thread-local state). In that case, how about cutting a version which is 2.4.3 + the compiler fixes? Crashes are bad, and it would be very nice to Make Them Go Away. :) Anthony -- Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Baxter wrote: In that case, how about cutting a version which is 2.4.3 + the compiler fixes? Crashes are bad, and it would be very nice to Make Them Go Away. :) You already have that. Check out the Zope-2_4-branch from CVS (see http://dev.zope.org/CVS for info). Now leave poor Matt alone :-) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote Anthony Baxter wrote: In that case, how about cutting a version which is 2.4.3 + the compiler fixes? Crashes are bad, and it would be very nice to Make Them Go Away. :) You already have that. Check out the Zope-2_4-branch from CVS (see http://dev.zope.org/CVS for info). Now leave poor Matt alone :-) I know - I do have this. Plenty of other people, tho, do NOT have the ability to build their own version of Zope. Requiring people to follow a somewhat arcane set of instructions and steps merely to get a stable version of Zope that doesn't crash strikes me as... odd. Anthony ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] New Medical/Healthcare Python/Zope user group - Zopymed
From an idea on the Openhealth mailing list, we've setup a new user-group for Zope/Python users involved in the Medical/Healthcare fields (and surrounding fields, such as Education, Research, BioInformatics) ...or ZoPyMed for short! Just a mailing list so far - http://maillist.linuxmednews.org/mailman/listinfo/zopymed - but we can setup an associated website if there is sufficient interest. Short-term, the list is a place to ask questions and share ideas, code, tips and useful-links. Long-term, we might aim to create reusable components/functionality and promote interoperability between different applications. But the agenda is very fluid, and open to suggestions! So, if you're using Zope/Python and are involved in Medical/Health-related IT, please join up, introduce yourself, and tell us what you'd like to see from this group! Cheers, Jon Jon Edwards Pricom Ltd www.pricom.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Baxter wrote: Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote Anthony Baxter wrote: In that case, how about cutting a version which is 2.4.3 + the compiler fixes? Crashes are bad, and it would be very nice to Make Them Go Away. :) You already have that. Check out the Zope-2_4-branch from CVS (see http://dev.zope.org/CVS for info). Now leave poor Matt alone :-) I know - I do have this. Plenty of other people, tho, do NOT have the ability to build their own version of Zope. Requiring people to follow a somewhat arcane set of instructions and steps merely to get a stable version of Zope that doesn't crash strikes me as... odd. It's not as uncommon as you make it sound; look at BerkeleyDB and the Linux kernel. :-) Anyway, Zope 2.4.4 is coming soon I'm sure. The only difference is the Python files in lib/python/RestrictedPython so you really don't even have to recompile anything. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] 2.5.0b4: how to deadlock/DoS your Data.fs
Hi, I've been away from Zope for nearly two years and thought I'd give 2.5.0b4 a whirl... instead, it's giving me a spinning head... I have multiple sites and would like to give Zope another try... When I first go into Zope at localhost:8080/manage, the first thing I tried was to add a VirtualHostMonster (specifying all the fields)... Big mistake #1... the Data.fs is toast -- no way to access it... Re-install and try again... This time, I try SiteRoot, specifying the fields: pfortin.com http://pfortin.com/ /Z Big mistake #2! Re-install and try again... This time, I do the same thing; but without specifying a Base... Big mistake #3! In every case, I was left with an unusable Data.fs because the http://localhost:8080/manage page was now pointing to non-existent data... I'm off to do some more reading; but the intent was to try to setup 2 virtual hosts on localhost:8080 without disturbing the running hosts on port 80... but I ended up with deadlocked files since main screen points to http://localhost:8080/fubar/manage* which are not setup. Pierre ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5.0b4: how to deadlock/DoS your Data.fs
did you read the documentation that explains how to suppress e.g. site roots by inserting certain names into the URL? installing site roots or virtual host monsters does not toast any ZODB. jens On Tuesday, January 22, 2002, at 12:10 , Pierre Fortin wrote: Hi, I've been away from Zope for nearly two years and thought I'd give 2.5.0b4 a whirl... instead, it's giving me a spinning head... I have multiple sites and would like to give Zope another try... When I first go into Zope at localhost:8080/manage, the first thing I tried was to add a VirtualHostMonster (specifying all the fields)... Big mistake #1... the Data.fs is toast -- no way to access it... Re-install and try again... This time, I try SiteRoot, specifying the fields: pfortin.com http://pfortin.com/ /Z Big mistake #2! Re-install and try again... This time, I do the same thing; but without specifying a Base... Big mistake #3! In every case, I was left with an unusable Data.fs because the http://localhost:8080/manage page was now pointing to non-existent data.. . I'm off to do some more reading; but the intent was to try to setup 2 virtual hosts on localhost:8080 without disturbing the running hosts on port 80... but I ended up with deadlocked files since main screen points to http://localhost:8080/fubar/manage* which are not setup. Pierre ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5.0b4: how to deadlock/DoS your Data.fs
Well... pointing my browser to http://localhost:8080/manage gives errors due to everything getting re-written to entities which don't exist yet; the frameset's three frames point to http://localhost:8080/fubar/manage* which are not setup. ^^^ ^ My point is that it is way too easy to (yes) toast your ZODB as a result. In other words, inability to access the manage page is equivalent to a toasted ZODB since there is no [visible] way back in... the manage page is no longer accessible if the first thing I do is add a VHM or SiteRoot... Injecting a rewrite rule between the browser and Zope's http://localhost:8080/manage won't help when going directly to http://localhost:8080/manage gives errors which prevent doing anything else to the ZODB; but hey... I'm re-learning Zope (which didn't have VHM back then, IIRC), and being unable to access the ZODB after adding a single item to a virgin copy is not a very friendly loophole, IMHO. Even following http://www.zope.org/Members/Jace/apache-vhm appears to assume that a Zope site already exists... am I wrong...? BTW, did you really mean suppress? If so, I haven't found that yet... (pointer?) If not, see above. http://www.zope.org/DocProjects/AdminGuide/Project/FrontPage states Complex software without documentation is hard to sell someone on, IMHO. --willdawg which kinda says it all... If the above results in unusable ZODB; why should I waste my time building content if my first experience is to lose access to the ZODB..? The way I see it right now is that my confidence in Zope has been shot down by a rather simple setup attempt locking me out... [It's late, I'm really tired; so hope this makes some sense...] Pierre On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:18:56 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you read the documentation that explains how to suppress e.g. site roots by inserting certain names into the URL? installing site roots or virtual host monsters does not toast any ZODB. jens On Tuesday, January 22, 2002, at 12:10 , Pierre Fortin wrote: Hi, I've been away from Zope for nearly two years and thought I'd give 2.5.0b4 a whirl... instead, it's giving me a spinning head... I have multiple sites and would like to give Zope another try... When I first go into Zope at localhost:8080/manage, the first thing I tried was to add a VirtualHostMonster (specifying all the fields)... Big mistake #1... the Data.fs is toast -- no way to access it... Re-install and try again... This time, I try SiteRoot, specifying the fields: pfortin.com http://pfortin.com/ /Z Big mistake #2! Re-install and try again... This time, I do the same thing; but without specifying a Base... Big mistake #3! In every case, I was left with an unusable Data.fs because the http://localhost:8080/manage page was now pointing to non-existent data.. . I'm off to do some more reading; but the intent was to try to setup 2 virtual hosts on localhost:8080 without disturbing the running hosts on port 80... but I ended up with deadlocked files since main screen points to http://localhost:8080/fubar/manage* which are not setup. Pierre ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
