[Zope-dev] Come to the Zope Sprint @ PyCon 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
There will be a Zope + Friends sprint @ PyCon 2009, to work on Zope and Zope-related technologies like Grok, Repoze, Deliverence etc. http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/ Because of the Repoze overlap with WSGI based frameworks we plan to work closely together with the WSGI/Pylons/Tu

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: > See this thread: > > http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2009-January/thread.html Shame, oh well, I think dictatorship is the way to go and I think you'd make a pretty good dictator, so go for it :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Shane Hathaway
Fred Drake wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: >> BTW, I strongly discourage from imports. (I didn't always have this >> opinion, but have seen the error of my ways. Thanks to Fred Drake for >> nudging me in this direction.) IMO, this is wildly more important than >> any o

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Simon Michael
Hey Andreas.. yay, thank you for taking this on. I'd like to help however I can. You asked about write access on wiki.zope.org - assuming you mean zope manager access, I've added an account for you, see private mail. (For the record, other manager accounts on wiki.zope.org at this time are: ba

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
I'm with Tres on both issues: +1 for PEP-8 import grouping (sorted alphabetically within each group), -1 for repeating english.adjective.fully english.adverb.qualified english.noun.package english.noun.names all over the place in the code (this also ties with my preference of trying to keep all my

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > - -1. I prefer the PEP8 grouping, where "stdlib" imports are > separated > from "dependecy" imports, which are separated from "local" imports. > Note that this is *not* subjective (an import is unambiguously in > exaclty one of those three clas

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19.02.2009 19:16 Uhr, Chris Withers wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: >> because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put >> the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. > > Is this failure official or is there

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: > because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put > the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. Is this failure official or is there just no action on this? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: >> Exactly . As I mentioned in the previous post, sorting is the *key* >> here. [Pun intended]. >> Grouping (python, zope., myapp. modules order), or non-grouping, >> becomes a non-issue when imports are sorted. >> >> +1 > > - -1. I prefer the PEP

[Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. The goal is having up some pages with the downloads, basic pointers and links with the final release of Z

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: >> I sort my imports. Period. This makes from imports come before >> regular imports (because f comes before i). I discourage from >> imports, so this isn't much of an issue fo

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > I sort my imports. Period. This makes from imports come before > regular imports (because f comes before i). I discourage from > imports, so this isn't much of an issue for me except for old code. > Having imports sorted takes very little effort a

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Fred Drake
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > BTW, I strongly discourage from imports. (I didn't always have this > opinion, but have seen the error of my ways. Thanks to Fred Drake for > nudging me in this direction.) IMO, this is wildly more important than > any of the issues raised in t

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi, > > while gathering, cleaning and consolidating the various statements > that > float around about the coding style for Zope 3, I found a couple of > issues that I'd like to get clarification for. > > What I found is currently gathered

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
> Which attribute naming is current? > == > > Do we use under_scores or mixedCaseNames? > > I think I remember that we decided to follow PEP 8 for new code and > invoke the "local consistentency" rule on old code. Is that correct? According to this document in Zope3

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 February 2009, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > and the decision that was apparently adopted is in this document   > (section titled "Coding style"): > > http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/maintaining-soft >ware.txt Except that not all people agreed to that, includi

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 February 2009, Christian Theune wrote: > Which attribute naming is current? > == > > Do we use under_scores or mixedCaseNames? > > I think I remember that we decided to follow PEP 8 for new code and > invoke the "local consistentency" rule on old code.

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Feb 19, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Christian Theune wrote: >> Which attribute naming is current? >> == >> >> Do we use under_scores or mixedCaseNames? >> >> I think I remember that we decided to follow PEP 8 for new code and >> invoke t

Re: [Zope-dev] Single Sign On

2009-02-19 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 19, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > > I have the impression that you're talking past each other. > > There are two ways of using OpenID: > > * you can be an OpenID provider, i.e. accept logins with username & >password and respond to authentication requests from other websit

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2009-02-19 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Feb 18 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Thu Feb 19 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Feb 18 20:59:4

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Theune wrote: > Hi, > > while gathering, cleaning and consolidating the various statements that > float around about the coding style for Zope 3, I found a couple of > issues that I'd like to get clarification for. > > What I found is currently gathered at > http://svn.zope.o

[Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, while gathering, cleaning and consolidating the various statements that float around about the coding style for Zope 3, I found a couple of issues that I'd like to get clarification for. What I found is currently gathered at http://svn.zope.org/zope3docs/source/codingstyle/python-style.rst?re

[Zope-dev] zc.selenium Zope2 support

2009-02-19 Thread Wolfgang Schnerring
Hello, On http://svn.zope.org/zc.selenium/branches/wosc-zope2/ I've worked to make zc.selenium be usable in Zope2/Five. There are two big changes, apart from having to sprinkle some try/except imports and other small compatibility bits around: 1. Since Zope2 insists quite firmly on running in its