[Zope-dev] zc.selenium Zope2 support

2009-02-19 Thread Wolfgang Schnerring
Hello, On http://svn.zope.org/zc.selenium/branches/wosc-zope2/ I've worked to make zc.selenium be usable in Zope2/Five. There are two big changes, apart from having to sprinkle some try/except imports and other small compatibility bits around: 1. Since Zope2 insists quite firmly on running in

[Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, while gathering, cleaning and consolidating the various statements that float around about the coding style for Zope 3, I found a couple of issues that I'd like to get clarification for. What I found is currently gathered at

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Theune wrote: Hi, while gathering, cleaning and consolidating the various statements that float around about the coding style for Zope 3, I found a couple of issues that I'd like to get clarification for. What I found is currently gathered at

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2009-02-19 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Feb 18 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Thu Feb 19 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Feb 18

Re: [Zope-dev] Single Sign On

2009-02-19 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 19, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: I have the impression that you're talking past each other. There are two ways of using OpenID: * you can be an OpenID provider, i.e. accept logins with username password and respond to authentication requests from other websites

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Feb 19, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Theune wrote: Which attribute naming is current? == Do we use under_scores or mixedCaseNames? I think I remember that we decided to follow PEP 8 for new code and invoke the local

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 February 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Which attribute naming is current? == Do we use under_scores or mixedCaseNames? I think I remember that we decided to follow PEP 8 for new code and invoke the local consistentency rule on old code. Is that

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 February 2009, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: and the decision that was apparently adopted is in this document   (section titled Coding style): http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/maintaining-soft ware.txt Except that not all people agreed to that, including me.

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
Which attribute naming is current? == Do we use under_scores or mixedCaseNames? I think I remember that we decided to follow PEP 8 for new code and invoke the local consistentency rule on old code. Is that correct? According to this document in Zope3

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, while gathering, cleaning and consolidating the various statements that float around about the coding style for Zope 3, I found a couple of issues that I'd like to get clarification for. What I found is currently gathered at

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Fred Drake
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: BTW, I strongly discourage from imports. (I didn't always have this opinion, but have seen the error of my ways. Thanks to Fred Drake for nudging me in this direction.) IMO, this is wildly more important than any of the issues

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: I sort my imports. Period. This makes from imports come before regular imports (because f comes before i). I discourage from imports, so this isn't much of an issue for me except for old code. Having imports sorted takes very little effort and

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: I sort my imports. Period. This makes from imports come before regular imports (because f comes before i). I discourage from imports, so this isn't much of an issue for me

[Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. The goal is having up some pages with the downloads, basic pointers and links with the final release of

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: Exactly . As I mentioned in the previous post, sorting is the *key* here. [Pun intended]. Grouping (python, zope., myapp. modules order), or non-grouping, becomes a non-issue when imports are sorted. +1 - -1. I prefer the PEP8 grouping,

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. Is this failure official or is there just no action on this? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19.02.2009 19:16 Uhr, Chris Withers wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. Is this failure official or is there just

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: - -1. I prefer the PEP8 grouping, where stdlib imports are separated from dependecy imports, which are separated from local imports. Note that this is *not* subjective (an import is unambiguously in exaclty one of those three

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
I'm with Tres on both issues: +1 for PEP-8 import grouping (sorted alphabetically within each group), -1 for repeating english.adjective.fully english.adverb.qualified english.noun.package english.noun.names all over the place in the code (this also ties with my preference of trying to keep all my

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Simon Michael
Hey Andreas.. yay, thank you for taking this on. I'd like to help however I can. You asked about write access on wiki.zope.org - assuming you mean zope manager access, I've added an account for you, see private mail. (For the record, other manager accounts on wiki.zope.org at this time are:

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-02-19 Thread Shane Hathaway
Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: BTW, I strongly discourage from imports. (I didn't always have this opinion, but have seen the error of my ways. Thanks to Fred Drake for nudging me in this direction.) IMO, this is wildly more important than

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: See this thread: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2009-January/thread.html Shame, oh well, I think dictatorship is the way to go and I think you'd make a pretty good dictator, so go for it :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting

[Zope-dev] Come to the Zope Sprint @ PyCon 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
There will be a Zope + Friends sprint @ PyCon 2009, to work on Zope and Zope-related technologies like Grok, Repoze, Deliverence etc. http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/ Because of the Repoze overlap with WSGI based frameworks we plan to work closely together with the