Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Lotze
Thomas Lotze wrote: > I thought about that one briefly, but I don't like it because it > introduces at least some knowledge about the security concept to > zope.component. The more I think about it, the less evil this appears to me, though. After all, the zope.component.zcml module has been depen

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Lotze
Martijn Faassen wrote: > Thomas Lotze wrote: >> IMO it would be interesting to have the concept of the current site >> available separately from the rest of zope.site with its 30 >> dependencies. (For example, zope.browserresource demonstrates how with >> the present zope.site the need to know the

Re: [Zope-dev] Updating the ZTK KGS

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Lotze
Martijn Faassen wrote: > Whether ztk.cfg can be reused directly or whether we should extract > something in it with just the version indicators I'm not sure about. I've > noticed when modifying the buildout.cfg of the ZTK to add > z3c.recipe.depgraph support that I had to pin down *everything* tha

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WebDAV and acquisition

2009-10-06 Thread Martin Aspeli
Tres Seaver palladion.com> writes: > There is no way to tell the difference between a WebDAV GET and a > "normal" browser GET, period: the specs explicitly, deliberately > overload the GET verb. > > Hence the IANA-assigned "WebDAV source port"[1] (9800) (which *we* > requested) in order to disa

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WebDAV and acquisition

2009-10-06 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Hathaway wrote: > Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> Can anyone explain why that condition is there? Otherwise, I'll rip it >>> out. ;-) > > As I recall, this code is convoluted because it's hard to tell whether > an HTTP request is a WebDAV request. I

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-06 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: > > > Please don't add new dependencies to zope.component. Even optional ones, > IMHO. It makes it harder to re-use for others and more complex to > understand. Many people (e.g. those wanting to use GAE) object to t

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-06 Thread Martin Aspeli
Martijn Faassen wrote: > We could investigate two options: > > * just removing that code that remove proxies and sees what happens to > significant Zope 3 code bases. Risky. > > * alternatively, putting in an optional dependency on zope.security in > zope.component. If zope.security proxy is i

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Thomas Lotze wrote: > zope.site.hooks is a rather light-weight module that is concerned with > the concept of a current site, where the notion of a site is used in the > same sense as in zope.component, which actually prefers to only talk > about a component registry. In contrast, the rest of

[Zope-dev] Bazaar 2.0 (was Re: Subversion externals versus mirroring)

2009-10-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Gary Poster wrote: > Once Bzr 2.0 comes out (in less than a month AIUI), I'll at least > send out a link to it and point out some changes made that > specifically address concerns raised by Zope Foundation members when > I raised Launchpad's/Canonical's offer bef

Re: [Zope-dev] Updating the ZTK KGS

2009-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Thomas Lotze wrote: [snip] > - make ztk.cfg available from zope.org (why docs.zope.org, btw?) under a > versioned URL I agree we should make it available under a versioned URL somehow. Whether ztk.cfg can be reused directly or whether we should extract something in it with just the version ind

Re: [Zope-dev] Updating the ZTK KGS

2009-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Hanno Schlichting wrote: [snip] > I don't see how a ZTK meta-egg would be of any value. Given that the > number of packages included in the ZTK will change quite a bit over > time, it doesn't make sense to depend on a ZTK egg for a package, as > it doesn't provide any real stable contract. An

[Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Lotze
zope.site.hooks is a rather light-weight module that is concerned with the concept of a current site, where the notion of a site is used in the same sense as in zope.component, which actually prefers to only talk about a component registry. In contrast, the rest of zope.site deals with local site m

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-10-06 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Oct 5 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Tue Oct 6 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Mon Oct 5 20:44:55 EDT 2009 URL: http://

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-06 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Martin Aspeli > wrote: >> Thomas Lotze wrote: >> >>> - zope.contenttype: parsing of MIME-type identifiers, guessing the MIME >>> type of file contents, preferrably without dependencies within the ZTK >> Can I suggest that we use a diff

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Thomas Lotze wrote: > >> - zope.contenttype: parsing of MIME-type identifiers, guessing the MIME >>   type of file contents, preferrably without dependencies within the ZTK > > Can I suggest that we use a different name? Please don't! We ha

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Lotze
Martin Aspeli wrote: > Thomas Lotze wrote: > >> - zope.contenttype: parsing of MIME-type identifiers, guessing the MIME >> type of file contents, preferrably without dependencies within the ZTK > > Can I suggest that we use a different name? 'content type' to me sounds > like CMS-y functionali

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-06 Thread Martin Aspeli
Thomas Lotze wrote: > - zope.contenttype: parsing of MIME-type identifiers, guessing the MIME > type of file contents, preferrably without dependencies within the ZTK Can I suggest that we use a different name? 'content type' to me sounds like CMS-y functionality. We have interfaces like ICont

Re: [Zope-dev] Updating the ZTK KGS

2009-10-06 Thread Christian Theune
On 10/05/2009 02:22 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Thomas Lotze wrote: >> Having worked on and released new versions of a few ZTK packages recently, >> I'm tempted to update the ZTK KGS (ztk.cfg) accordingly now. However, as >> there doesn't seem to be an agreed process about this and in an attempt >