Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
Stephan Richter wrote: Hey, I am not _that_ silly ;^). I can exit the shell but I leave Zope working in the background, of course. Then all works fine until I do an FTP, which hangs because the server dies. Sorry, I did not mean to offend you No ofenses ;^) I have not used the FTP for a long time, but I also noticed that I cannot get to any directories deeper than the root one from Emacs anymore. But that could be caused by my own User Folder, since it is not updated with the new security implementation. Mmmhh, you use the regular User Folder right? Yes, the default user folder. I don't access that machine with Emacs, but maybe I can try doing that to see if I get the same behavior. However, it must be a problem of the server and not any FTP client. Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
Chris Withers wrote: Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote: I am running Zope 2.3.0 under Linux in a remote machine. When I try to access Medusa through FTP (port 8021) using Netscape 4.5 under Windows, Zope dies silently. Is this a known issue? How can I trace what is happening to Zope's FTP server causing it to die? Stick it in the collector: classic.zope.org:8080/Collector (it's down at the moment :-( ) cheers, Chris Yep, I was going to do that. However I wanted to track the bug a little more. The problem is not with Netscape; through plain vanilla FTP utility I get the same situation. But now comes the nice part: If I login to the machine and restart Zope then, *without* leaving the shell prompt, the FTP access works fine. I get the access and success login notices in the screen. If I logout and I try to login with ftp again, Zope RIPs ;^/ Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
"Randall F. Kern" wrote: Are you starting zope with ./start, or otherwise including -D when z2.py is executed? That will cause Zope to try to write to the terminal when an FTP connection is made. Since the terminal is gone, Zope dies. -Randy The problem started occurring without debugging turned on, and it didn't happen always. Then I turned debugging on to trace the bug, and it was worst: there were no logs and the server always dies if I exit the console. I am pretty cueless to what is going on... Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
Jon Franz wrote: I think this may be a problem with passive/active FTP sessions and (possibly) proxies settign between you and the Zope instance. I've had the same problem with other FTP clients when I try to FTP into a Zope server: at one client's office they do NAT, which acts as a proxy - around 60% of the time my FTP session will lock up on a PUT, and the WHOLE zope instance dies. I am accessing the FTP directly, don't know if there is something that would act like a proxy. I am going to check for that... I had written it off as somethign to do with the clien'ts network - but if its happening to others out there too, then maybe its time we launched an investigation into this? The problem I noticed when I looked at it previously is that no error was ever logged, even with the debug option turned on - the zope instance just died mysteriously. In my case, when the debug option is turned on it is worst because then it always dies. I don't know if the same would happen with stdio/stderr redirected to something like /dev/null or a file... Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
Stephan Richter wrote: The problem started occurring without debugging turned on, and it didn't happen always. Then I turned debugging on to trace the bug, and it was worst: there were no logs and the server always dies if I exit the console. I am pretty cueless to what is going on... Well, yes, the server will die when you close the console if you did not start it with nohup or some other program that "unbinds" Zope from the Shell as a child. Just start Zope with: nohup ./start All messages will be forwarded to nohup.out in your current directory at execution time. You can stop the server with ./stop Regards, Stephan Hey, I am not _that_ silly ;^). I can exit the shell but I leave Zope working in the background, of course. Then all works fine until I do an FTP, which hangs because the server dies. Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
Hi! I am running Zope 2.3.0 under Linux in a remote machine. When I try to access Medusa through FTP (port 8021) using Netscape 4.5 under Windows, Zope dies silently. Is this a known issue? How can I trace what is happening to Zope's FTP server causing it to die? Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.3.0 release badness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just updated to 2.3.0 release using CVS. My CSS serving has subsequently broken. The CSS serving worked fine with the CVS code from 2.3.0b2. I didn't get to check b3 - we had a public holiday on Friday and that meant that the one working day assigned to the b3 release was lost to me (and _most_ other Australians). Anyway, that's a separate issue ... (...) Under Netscape (versions 4.72 - 4.75), a 'back button' request results in a truncated plain-text display of the CSS that is linked from the page. The zope server log shows the request as being successfully served. I telnet'ed to the server and requested the CSS manually, and the headers all look fine. A packet sniffer seems to say that all is well. (...) Now for the fun: this only happens for local requests - someone requesting the same pages over the ethernet will get them fine. Only Netscape and only locally. Konqueror locally works fine. (...) Again, this was not a problem pre 2.3.0 b3 / release... Richard Hi! Nope, this is not only a problem of 2.3.0. I have had the same issue in all of the 2.3.0x Zope versions, and the problem is not really Zope but Netscape 4.X. For me, the trouble arises once in a while and specially when I start doing page reloads quickly. It seems that, when Zope starts serving the document, Netscape asks for the stylesheet file almost instantly (because it is inside the HTML's header) and then a sort of synchronizing error happens. When you are at the local machine the delay between the document requests is larger so the problem is less frequent. I have never seen the problem under Netscape 6 or Mozilla. I don't know to what extent this could be Zope's fault. Cheers! -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.3.0 release badness
the HTML's header) and then a sort of synchronizing error happens. When you are at the local machine the delay between the document requests is larger so the Oops. That should be "When you are *not* at the local machine...". Sorry ;^) -- Pablo Bleyer Kocik | pbleyer|"Rintrah roars shakes his fires in the burdend air; @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" William Blake ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
