Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-20 Thread Chris Withers
Stephan Richter wrote: Can you be more specific? I think ZCML is very compact. Well, I'm hoping to take a proper look at the latest Z3 "some time soon", so I'll let you know after that and shut up on the subject in the meantime ;-) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-20 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Anyway, while I have my criticisms of ZCML, too much typing is really not very important in my list. You can get it somewhat shorter, I'm sure, but not *that* much shorter. I'd worry more about the reading part than the writing. More typing = more reading in my books, so I

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: [snip] For me, the main drawback with ZCML is that WingIDE doesn't to auto completion on it. ;) An ZCML editor that automatically popped up a list of the supported keywords for every statement would be really nice. :-p Actually emacs + nxml + the Relax NG schema (unfortunatel

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Apr 8, 2005 3:09 PM, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 08 April 2005 07:34, Lennart Regebro wrote: > > For me, the main drawback with ZCML is that WingIDE doesn't to auto > > completion on it. ;) An ZCML editor that automatically popped up a > > list of the supported keyword

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 April 2005 07:34, Lennart Regebro wrote: > For me, the main drawback with ZCML is that WingIDE doesn't to auto > completion on it. ;) An ZCML editor that automatically popped up a > list of the supported keywords for every statement would be really > nice. :-p: Yeah, I talked to Steph

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 April 2005 03:24, Chris Withers wrote: > Yes, this is all stuff I know and love about Z3 ;-);-) When I last saw > ZCML, it was horrible though. I don't mind XML, just not if it lots of > pointless typing... Can you be more specific? I think ZCML is very compact. Regards, Stephan --

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Jim Fulton
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Apr 8, 2005 12:54 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... A benefit of using an XML format is that many editors will happily both do syntax high-lighting, some sort of auto-indentation, and automatic commenting/uncommenting. A non-standard syntax wouldn't do tha

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Apr 8, 2005 12:54 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > > Lennart Regebro wrote: > > > >> You know the feeling when a third party product has the wrong > >> permission or no permission at all on something? What are you gonna > >> do? Subclass: Lots of work. Patc

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris Withers wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: You know the feeling when a third party product has the wrong permission or no permission at all on something? What are you gonna do? Subclass: Lots of work. Patch: You gotta keep it updated. With ZCML, you override it. TADA! Yes, this is all stuff I kno

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-08 Thread Chris Withers
Lennart Regebro wrote: You know the feeling when a third party product has the wrong permission or no permission at all on something? What are you gonna do? Subclass: Lots of work. Patch: You gotta keep it updated. With ZCML, you override it. TADA! Yes, this is all stuff I know and love about Z3 ;-

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
Richard Jones wrote: > Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid ZCML if > possible. It's just one of those personal preference things, I suppose, but I > know I'm not the only one who isn't that enamored of the ZCML approach. ZCML started out for me (and as an experinc

Re: [Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-07 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: Richard Jones wrote: Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid ZCML if possible. It's just one of those personal preference things, I suppose, but I know I'm not the only one who isn't that enamored of the ZCML approach. I actually like having the

[Zope-dev] To ZCML or not ;-)

2005-04-07 Thread Chris Withers
Richard Jones wrote: Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid ZCML if possible. It's just one of those personal preference things, I suppose, but I know I'm not the only one who isn't that enamored of the ZCML approach. I actually like having the declarations all in