Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 and 2.8 roadmap

[Florent Guillaume]

Tim Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW, the two things I'd like are a stable 2.7 release in the short term
> to setup a new site on, and a stable 2.8 release to develop a new product
> on.  Sounds like Santa (aka Andreas) will be bringing the former ;-).  I
> think in the back of my mind, I was hoping that more people waiting on 2.8
> to get their features into zope might speed things up on the latter -
> hence my wondering about the motivations for a 2.7.5 (which you have now
> cleared up).

That said, given that 2.8 is a *big* change in term of internals, it's
pretty likely that there will be (a number of) other 2.7.* releases
after 2.7.4.

Florent

> That said, I'm in no position to do anything other than inquire (in a most
> friendly and appreciative manner) about 2.8 as I'm certainly not on of the
> people with the 'detailed knowledge' to fix zclasses and garbage
> collection.

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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 and 2.8 roadmap

[Andreas Jung]

--On Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 13:06 Uhr + Tim Hicks 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

FWIW, the two things I'd like are a stable 2.7 release in the short term
to setup a new site on, and a stable 2.8 release to develop a new product
on.  Sounds like Santa (aka Andreas) will be bringing the former ;-).  I
think in the back of my mind, I was hoping that more people waiting on 2.8
to get their features into zope might speed things up on the latter -
hence my wondering about the motivations for a 2.7.5 (which you have now
cleared up).
The latest "final" releases are stable enough to work with them.
Since Zope  is meanwhile mostly community-driven things are done as people
have time and interest  and willing to spend their free-time on such a 
project.

That said, I'm in no position to do anything other than inquire (in a most
friendly and appreciative manner) about 2.8 as I'm certainly not on of the
people with the 'detailed knowledge' to fix zclasses and garbage
collection.

Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 and 2.8 roadmap

[Tim Hicks]

Andreas Jung said:

>> 1) When is the recent release of 2.7.4b2 expected to be followed up with
>> a
>> 'final' (or indeed another beta) release?
>
> 2.7.4 final is scheduled for early January.


Ok, thanks.


>> 2) I have seen mutterings about a 2.7.5 release, but I'm not sure why
>> this
>> should be necessary as I thought all 'dot releases' were only supposed
>> to
>> provide bug-fixes.  Seeing as we're still on beta for 2.7.4, shouldn't
>> any
>> outstanding fixes go into that?
>
> Have you seen anything other than bugfixes  in dot releases? Except some
> minor
> improvements all releases were bugfix releases only. No major new
> features
> were introduced. And new  2.7.X release will be made as long as
> outstanding
> bugs are fixed but not *every* outstanding will be fixed.


That's fair enough.  Thanks for the clarification.


>> 3) Are there plans for another 2.8 (alpha or beta) release in the near
>> future?  Is there a timeline for this?  Are ZC or anyone else hanging
>> out
>> for this?  Personally, I'm pretty keen to be able to persist new style
>> classes (for use with the email.Message.Message class).  The wiki at
>>  seems a
>> little out of date.
>>
>
> There are some outstanding issues that must be fixed before the next alpha
> 2
> (ZClasses, garbage collection). I don't know when Jim can work on this
> issue
> (there are only some people  with the detail knowledge to fix these
> issues). Since
> I can not enforce people to work on particular issues, a2 will released
> when the
> outstanding issues are solved.


I understand.


FWIW, the two things I'd like are a stable 2.7 release in the short term
to setup a new site on, and a stable 2.8 release to develop a new product
on.  Sounds like Santa (aka Andreas) will be bringing the former ;-).  I
think in the back of my mind, I was hoping that more people waiting on 2.8
to get their features into zope might speed things up on the latter -
hence my wondering about the motivations for a 2.7.5 (which you have now
cleared up).

That said, I'm in no position to do anything other than inquire (in a most
friendly and appreciative manner) about 2.8 as I'm certainly not on of the
people with the 'detailed knowledge' to fix zclasses and garbage
collection.


cheers,


tim
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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 and 2.8 roadmap

[Andreas Jung]

--On Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 12:27 Uhr + Tim Hicks 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
just wondering what the plans are for zope 2.7 and 2.8.  Specifically:
1) When is the recent release of 2.7.4b2 expected to be followed up with a
'final' (or indeed another beta) release?
2.7.4 final is scheduled for early January.

2) I have seen mutterings about a 2.7.5 release, but I'm not sure why this
should be necessary as I thought all 'dot releases' were only supposed to
provide bug-fixes.  Seeing as we're still on beta for 2.7.4, shouldn't any
outstanding fixes go into that?
Have you seen anything other than bugfixes  in dot releases? Except some 
minor
improvements all releases were bugfix releases only. No major new  features
were introduced. And new  2.7.X release will be made as long as outstanding
bugs are fixed but not *every* outstanding will be fixed.

3) Are there plans for another 2.8 (alpha or beta) release in the near
future?  Is there a timeline for this?  Are ZC or anyone else hanging out
for this?  Personally, I'm pretty keen to be able to persist new style
classes (for use with the email.Message.Message class).  The wiki at
 seems a
little out of date.
There are some outstanding issues that must be fixed before the next alpha 2
(ZClasses, garbage collection). I don't know when Jim can work on this issue
(there are only some people  with the detail knowledge to fix these 
issues). Since
I can not enforce people to work on particular issues, a2 will released 
when the
outstanding issues are solved.

Andreas

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[Zope-dev] 2.7 and 2.8 roadmap

[Tim Hicks]

Hi,

just wondering what the plans are for zope 2.7 and 2.8.  Specifically:

1) When is the recent release of 2.7.4b2 expected to be followed up with a
'final' (or indeed another beta) release?

2) I have seen mutterings about a 2.7.5 release, but I'm not sure why this
should be necessary as I thought all 'dot releases' were only supposed to
provide bug-fixes.  Seeing as we're still on beta for 2.7.4, shouldn't any
outstanding fixes go into that?

3) Are there plans for another 2.8 (alpha or beta) release in the near
future?  Is there a timeline for this?  Are ZC or anyone else hanging out
for this?  Personally, I'm pretty keen to be able to persist new style
classes (for use with the email.Message.Message class).  The wiki at
 seems a
little out of date.


Just interested.


cheers,

tim
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