Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2001-01-03 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: > > Jim Fulton wrote: > > > > - Policies to control whether multiple revisions are stored > > or whether revisions are removed by packing on a object-by-object > > or transaction-by-transaction basis. > > > You could keep significant historical revisions for im

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2001-01-02 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: > > - Policies to control whether multiple revisions are stored > or whether revisions are removed by packing on a object-by-object > or transaction-by-transaction basis. > You could keep significant historical revisions for important objects, such > as Wiki p

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-30 Thread Lalo Martins
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 08:27:00AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > Lalo Martins wrote: > > > > Anyway, I said "inefficient", not "slow". > > I think you really mean "scalable". No, I meant "inefficient", a purposely vague term ;-) yes, I meant to imply it isn't scalable, but not only that, and as I

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-30 Thread Lalo Martins
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 08:10:15AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > Lalo Martins wrote: > > > > Please help stamp out Data.fs! :-) > > I don't think Data.fs will go away. I do expect it to be relagated to > initial evaluation and development projects. Use of Berkely DB in > transactional mode require

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-30 Thread Jim Fulton
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: > > At 08:10 AM 11/30/00 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > > > >I don't think Data.fs will go away. I do expect it to be relagated to > >initial evaluation and development projects. Use of Berkely DB in > > >transactional mode requires a significant andminstration commitment. >

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-30 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 08:10 AM 11/30/00 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > >I don't think Data.fs will go away. I do expect it to be relagated to >initial evaluation and development projects. Use of Berkely DB in >transactional mode requires a significant andminstration commitment. >Log files need to be purged. Backup and

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-30 Thread Jim Fulton
Lalo Martins wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:02:50AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > Of course it would, for the same reasons as OracleStorage (eg > > > FileStorage/Data.fs is inefficient) > > > > Actually, it's the other way around. OracleStorage is 30-to-50 times slower > > than File

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-30 Thread Jim Fulton
Lalo Martins wrote: > > Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a > half of silence. What's the status? >From our perspective, it's what it was then. We built it for a customer who later decided they didn't want it. I'm glad to hear you found it useful. > What about the o

[Zope-dev] BerkeleyStorage (Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others)

2000-11-29 Thread Lalo Martins
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 04:28:26PM +, Ty Sarna wrote: > Lalo Martins wrote: > > > > What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been > > dead for an year. > > It's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords! > > Seriously, AFAIK it still works, and it's mainly just stalled wai

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-29 Thread Lalo Martins
l try to convince them to write a report to the list. > - Original Message - > From: "Lalo Martins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-29 Thread Ty Sarna
Lalo Martins wrote: > > What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been > dead for an year. It's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords! Seriously, AFAIK it still works, and it's mainly just stalled waiting for some interest. It could stand to be updated to BerkeleyDB 3, but

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
It sounds like you've done more comprehensive speed testing than we have. Can you share some numbers? - Original Message - From: "Lalo Martins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev]

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-29 Thread Lalo Martins
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:02:50AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > > Of course it would, for the same reasons as OracleStorage (eg > > FileStorage/Data.fs is inefficient) > > Actually, it's the other way around. OracleStorage is 30-to-50 times slower > than FileStorage on writes. Reads are slow

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
> Of course it would, for the same reasons as OracleStorage (eg > FileStorage/Data.fs is inefficient) Actually, it's the other way around. OracleStorage is 30-to-50 times slower than FileStorage on writes. Reads are slow too but the slowness is somewhat negated by caching. __

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
MAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others > Lalo Martins wrote: > > > > Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a > > half of silence. What's the

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-28 Thread Lalo Martins
On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 06:01:15PM -0800, Ender wrote: > Lalo Martins wrote: > > > > Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a > > half of silence. What's the status? > > > > What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been > > dead for an year, and I heard p

Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-28 Thread Ender
Lalo Martins wrote: > > Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a > half of silence. What's the status? > > What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been > dead for an year, and I heard pretty nasty words about > InterbaseStorage. What about someone who wa

[Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others

2000-11-13 Thread Lalo Martins
Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a half of silence. What's the status? What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been dead for an year, and I heard pretty nasty words about InterbaseStorage. What about someone who wanted to try to port OracleStorage t