Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 16:12, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: While I think there is definitely scope for simplifying the mix of competing skin concepts in the Zope/CMF/Plone space, we need to be careful not to bite off more than we can chew. We still have a lot of CMF skin scripts and

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi Lennart, I'm not sure if you're not mixing different issues here. Am 17.11.2011, 11:35 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Absolutely. Getting rid of CMFSkins is a part of getting rid of CMF, not a part of moving to Zope 4. Different issues. I assume you are referring to

[Zope-dev] Enabling External Methods in skin folders

2011-11-17 Thread lists
Hi, I have a bunch of External Methods I'd like to make available in a skin form, and which reload in the same way a page template would if it was modified and the server was in debug mode. What's the recommended product for enabling this now? -Morten

Re: [Zope-dev] Enabling External Methods in skin folders

2011-11-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 17 November 2011 11:28, li...@nidelven-it.no wrote: Hi, I have a bunch of External Methods I'd like to make available in a skin form, and which reload in the same way a page template would if it was modified and the server was in debug mode. External methods should not require restarts

[Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
Along with David Glick, I would like to volunteer for the Zope 4 release management role, where I would take responsibility for producing the initial release of Zope 4 and David would then take over for the maintenance releases. In doing so, I thought it would be helpful to set out our

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:52, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Hi Lennart, I'm not sure if you're not mixing different issues here. Am 17.11.2011, 11:35 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Absolutely. Getting rid of CMFSkins is a part of getting rid of

[Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
Here's my current understanding of the Zope 4 roadmap. Zope 4 -- Significant progress has already been made on the following features and I expect they should all land in time for a Zope 4 release: - Storing parent pointers (elro, davisagli): we have a branch of Zope that changes OFS to

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, On 17 November 2011 12:25, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: Along with David Glick, I would like to volunteer for the Zope 4 release management role, where I would take responsibility for producing the initial release of Zope 4 and David would then take over for the maintenance

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 17 November 2011 14:46, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: Here's my current understanding of the Zope 4 roadmap. Zope 4 -- Significant progress has already been made on the following features and I expect they should all land in time for a Zope 4 release: - Storing parent

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: ... (Interesting roadmap snipped) This process will  necessitate a lot of merging, so I want to propose that we move to Git for development (something we found very helpful at our recent San Francisco Zope 4 sprint.) I

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 17 November 2011 15:50, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: ... (Interesting roadmap snipped) This process will  necessitate a lot of merging, so I want to propose that we move to Git for development (something we found

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2011 07:25 AM, Laurence Rowe wrote: Along with David Glick, I would like to volunteer for the Zope 4 release management role, where I would take responsibility for producing the initial release of Zope 4 and David would then take over

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Chris Withers
On 17/11/2011 16:32, Tres Seaver wrote: Note that this question is *not* suitable for loudest voice on zope-dev wins ressolution. The software belongs to the Zope Foundation, which will make any such decision. Small point: the software is open source and anyone who wants can maintain it

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 17 November 2011 16:32, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: * Zope 4 will not seek to innovate in itself but encourage innovation in software components shared with the wider Python web community. I smell something funny in here:  if we aren't innovating, why are we making the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 17 November 2011 16:32, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2011 07:25 AM, Laurence Rowe wrote: Along with David Glick, I would like to volunteer for the Zope 4 release management role, where I would take responsibility for

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 17 November 2011 15:23, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2011 14:46, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: Here's my current understanding of the Zope 4 roadmap. Zope 4 -- Significant progress has already been made on the following features and I expect

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2011 02:05 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote: On 17 November 2011 15:23, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2011 14:46, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: snip - Move authentication out to WSGI middleware. +1 -

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 17 November 2011 19:45, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Again, this is a choice to be made by the foundation:  any polling will be done by the members of the foundation (this might be the biggest non-election item on the agenda for the next annual meeting). When is the next annual

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2011 03:14 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote: On 17 November 2011 19:45, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Again, this is a choice to be made by the foundation: any polling will be done by the members of the foundation (this might be the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2011-11-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 17 November 2011 20:20, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2011 03:14 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote: On 17 November 2011 19:45, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Again, this is a choice to be made by the foundation:  any

[Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 5, OK: 41, UNKNOWN: 1

2011-11-17 Thread Zope tests summarizer
This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2011-11-16 00:00:00 UTC and 2011-11-17 00:00:00 UTC: See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful builds. An up-to date view of the builders is also available in our buildbot documentation:

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 20:57, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: FWIW, the port to Python3 of substantial existing web framework code is already a dubious proposition:  nearly everybody doing it these days is suffering pain (making their own code more complicated by straddling) in order

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 5, OK: 41, UNKNOWN: 1

2011-11-17 Thread Wolfgang Schnerring
* Zope tests summarizer nore...@zope.org [2011-11-18 02:00]: [2]FAILED ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-November/052798.html Module: zope.publisher.tests.test_testing File

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 5, OK: 41, UNKNOWN: 1

2011-11-17 Thread yuppie
Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: Thus, I'm really confused why the builder for ZTK 1.0 is picking this up, I've only bumped the version of zope.publisher in toolkit/trunk, nowhere else. Can somebody enlighten me what ZTK 1.0dev actually builds? See the [sources] section including comment: