Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-22 Thread Sylvain Viollon
Op 16 nov 2011, om 11:30 heeft Christian Theune het volgende geschreven: Hi, Hello, I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4. As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more details about that in a bit) we'd like to leverage this feature.

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 16:12, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: While I think there is definitely scope for simplifying the mix of competing skin concepts in the Zope/CMF/Plone space, we need to be careful not to bite off more than we can chew. We still have a lot of CMF skin scripts and

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi Lennart, I'm not sure if you're not mixing different issues here. Am 17.11.2011, 11:35 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Absolutely. Getting rid of CMFSkins is a part of getting rid of CMF, not a part of moving to Zope 4. Different issues. I assume you are referring to

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:52, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Hi Lennart, I'm not sure if you're not mixing different issues here. Am 17.11.2011, 11:35 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Absolutely. Getting rid of CMFSkins is a part of getting rid of

[Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4. As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more details about that in a bit) we'd like to leverage this feature. From my perspective, I value that Zope 2/4 has always made some choices upfront that one

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 16 November 2011 10:30, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4. As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more details about that in a bit) we'd like to leverage this feature.  From my

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 11/16/2011 12:24 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote: On 16 November 2011 10:30, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4. As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more details about that in a bit) we'd

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 16 November 2011 11:30, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Going down into the new ZMI project I find it to be the most light-weight approach without adding an extra dependency. What is this project? ;-) Martin ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/16/2011 12:31 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: On 16 November 2011 11:30, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: Going down into the new ZMI project I find it to be the most light-weight approach without adding an extra dependency. What is this project? ;-) We're currently sprinting in

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:24, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: It was removed in http://zope3.pov.lt/trac/changeset/122056 because it wasn't actually being used anywhere. I'm not completely averse to adding it back, but it does create confusion with the various different alternatives in

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Right. Could we standardize on skins or browserlayers plz? Having both confuses the heck out of me. Definitely a topic that needs (re)-opening. From a CMF point of I think we're just about at the point where we could switch

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Right. Could we standardize on skins or browserlayers plz? Having both confuses the heck out of me. Definitely a topic that needs

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2011 07:28 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Right. Could we standardize on skins or

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/16/2011 02:06 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2011 07:28 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 16.11.2011, 15:15 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: But they also have their merits. If I could make a wish, I'd like to see a shared implementation that marries all the benefits. Something I love a lot is the ++skin++ traverser for example. I also like the idea of tagging

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 16 November 2011 12:28, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Right. Could we standardize on skins or browserlayers plz? Having both

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/16/2011 04:12 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote: On 16 November 2011 12:28, Lennart Regebrorege...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebrorege...@gmail.com: Right. Could we

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/16/2011 11:30 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4. As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more details about that in a bit) we'd like to leverage this feature. From my perspective, I value that