On Thursday 28 May 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
-1.
I immediately had the same connotation as all the other German speakers. And I
am studying genetics right now as well, so I knew about locus.
Furthermore, I really do not see an advantage of renaming stuf
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > The SiteManagementFolder by default installed as ['default']
> > is absolutly useless and obsolate since the last refactoring.
> > It's just a container, earlier it was a kind of namespace.
>
> Yes, with Grok we've been installing directly in the
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Jim Fulton wrote:
> 3. I think the right word here is "local registry". I think the whole
> concept should be labeled as advanced and we should discourage people
> from even pondering it unless they have a strong use case, like
> wanting to host multiple web sites wi
Hey,
Roger Ineichen wrote:
[snip]
> Probably a rare use case or could become imporant if we use other
> patterns then the container traversal pattern. Do you have some
> ideas of using a contianer less traversal pattern?
Take a look at this graph:
http://startifact.com/depgraphs/zope.app.publish
Hi Martjin
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
>
> Roger Ineichen wrote:
> [snip]
> > The site offers a SiteManagementFolder, SiteManagerContainer and a
> > LocalSiteManager.
> >
> > The SiteManagementFolder by default installed as ['defa
Hi Jim
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
>
> A few high-level comments.
>
> 1. I admire your desire to make this clearer. :)
>
> 2. I think local configuration address use cases that most
> people don't have but introduce complexity that I bet
Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> * 2009-05-28 13:09, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> What do people think about:
>> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
>
> What is the technical advantage of renaming Site to Locus? To me it looks
> just like a (not so necessary) cosmetic change.
Obviously there is no techn
Roger Ineichen wrote:
[snip]
> The site offers a SiteManagementFolder, SiteManagerContainer
> and a LocalSiteManager.
>
> The SiteManagementFolder by default installed as ['default']
> is absolutly useless and obsolate since the last refactoring.
> It's just a container, earlier it was a kind of n
A few high-level comments.
1. I admire your desire to make this clearer. :)
2. I think local configuration address use cases that most people
don't have but introduce complexity that I bet a lot of developers
trip over.
3. I think the right word here is "local registry". I think the whole
Hi Martjin
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
I think if we really need a better naming, we should
think about how everyting will fit together.
e.g.
application, root, site, registry, local, global
component, location, container, item, etc.
I don't think locus is the ri
* 2009-05-28 13:09, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> What do people think about:
> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
What is the technical advantage of renaming Site to Locus? To me it looks
just like a (not so necessary) cosmetic change.
Fabio.
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Hi Martjin
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
>
> Hey,
>
> Roger Ineichen wrote:
> [snip]
> >> What do people think about:
> >>
> >> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
> >
> > Oh my god, many -1
>
> Motivations
> One reason Locus might be a bad word is because it's easily confused
> with "Location", a concept we already have.
an other one is that in german locus is often used for a place where you sit
down and use paper to clean your back afterwards..
robert
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I don't think locus is an improvement to site. Although site is not
strictly correct, it's often the fact that it is a site. Locus doesn't
say anything, and adds another abstraction with no obvious benefit.
A longer name is better in that case. Like componentlocation or
registration
Hey,
Roger Ineichen wrote:
[snip]
>> What do people think about:
>>
>> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
>
> Oh my god, many -1
Motivations beyond "oh my god"?
One reason Locus might be a bad word is because it's easily confused
with "Location", a concept we already have.
> What I like to
Hi Martjin, Christian
> Betreff: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
[...]
> The second plan is my favorite if it is possible
> dependency-wise and zope.component doesn't take on new
> dependencies. I think support for local components could very
> well be part of zope.component conceptually.
> It
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >> I propose we use the word 'Locus' instead of 'Site'. This word doesn't
> >> have a lot of connotations in the web programming world, and people can
> >> guess by simply looking at the word it mi
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> I propose we use the word 'Locus' instead of 'Site'. This word doesn't
>> have a lot of connotations in the web programming world, and people can
>> guess by simply looking at the word it might have something to do with
>> *local* co
Matthew Wilkes wrote:
> On 28 May 2009, at 12:39, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
>> * Hm, I wonder whether it has something to do with local utilities.
>
> I don't think I'd make this jump. I'd not be averse to a longer
> package name if it made it more explicit.
I wasn't primarily talking about a
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
> I propose we use the word 'Locus' instead of 'Site'. This word doesn't
> have a lot of connotations in the web programming world, and people can
> guess by simply looking at the word it might have something to do with
> *local* components. It's also short.
I
On 28 May 2009, at 12:39, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> * Hm, I wonder whether it has something to do with local utilities.
I don't think I'd make this jump. I'd not be averse to a longer
package name if it made it more explicit.
Matt
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Hey,
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> On May 28, 2009, at 13:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
>> What do people think about:
>>
>> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
>
> I think that's a terrible name. While "site" at least means something
> to people, "locus" doesn't carry any meaning in the specific k
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On May 28, 2009, at 13:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote:
> What do people think about:
>
> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
I think that's a terrible name. While "site" at least means something
to people, "locus" doesn't carry any meaning in the spe
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