Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Jim Fulton wrote: >  For a while,   > those of us working on Zope 3 revelled in "refactor mercilessly".   > This was fine before Zope 3 was widely adopted.  We have since leaned   > the value of mercy. :) LOL! (This should make it into the eternal list of Zope quote

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: > zope.tal's buildout.cfg contains: > > [versions] > zope.traversing = 3.4.0 > zope.app.publisher = 3.4.0 > > zope.tal shouldn't depend on either of these, so I'd like to remove   > both the pinning in buildout.cfg and fix the dependency bug tha

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: So what makes this stuff work via buildout is all version-pinning now? They aren't using the cheeseshop. They are using the KGS instead. They are currently also pinned. zope.tal's buildout.cfg contains: [versions] zope.traversing = 3.4.0 zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: > In the meantime, whose feet would I be shooting if I changed setup.py   > dependency info so that, e.g. zope.tales (and the like) didn't pull in   > as many dependencies?  Installing zope.tales (as an example, I'm sure   > its as a result of a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install depend

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install dependencies of currently failing zope.* eggs while

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:46 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: ... The individual eggs typically can't be used outside of a zope appserver installation (and if they can, they probably shouldn't be in "zope.app", they should be in "zope" or they should be their own top-level package

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install dependencies of currently failing zope.* eggs while easy_install can't. I probably won't be able to do

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >     Yes, you lose the > >     ability to make a bugfix in one subpackage and release it, but > >     IIRC the intent is to trim zope.app down anyway, pushing > >     libraryish things out to top-level or zope.* packages. > > That *

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >   - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install > >     dependencies of currently failing zope.* eggs while easy_install > >     can't.  I probably won't be able to do this. > > Because most buildouts specifically