Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Previously Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: > >> You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion > >> repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. > > > > Hanno imported it at http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/AdvancedQuery > > two days ago. We'll try to keep that synchronised with your work. > > Well that was Daniel Nouri, put otherwise you are right ;) That Hanno mask sure is popular :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: > You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion > repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. Hanno imported it at http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/AdvancedQuery two days ago. We'll try to keep that synchronised with your work. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
whit wrote at 2007-2-12 10:22 -0600: > ... >I'm not sure this warranted this much discussion or getting panties in a >bunch, but maybe something was learned here. As phrased early on, it >would be *nice* for those of us using svn:externals to manage certain >build processes to have AdvancedQuery in svn somewhere(not life or death). > >did we reach some sort of conclusion in all this? You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Previously Tres Seaver wrote:
> I looked at my CVS checkout, and noticed that a file ('tests/common.py')
> had not been checked in for ZVC 0.3.3. I therefore checked it in,
> tagged 0.3.4, and re-imported the SVN version from that tag. Finally, I
> added an 'ATTENTION_THIS_AREA_IS_NOW_CLOSED.txt' file and 'cvs rm'ed the
> remaining files from the CVS trunk.
Thanks for catching and fixing that!
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is > currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a > lot of us very happy. I asked Jim about this and he told me to just import the current CVS code into svn and go from there, keeping history only in CVS. So I just did just that: ZopeVersionControl can now be found at svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.ZopeVersionControl . I don't have CVS commit access so I can't stick a note in CVS HEAD to indicate this move. Can someone please add that? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Previously Rocky Burt wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-02 at 12:26 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > > On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: > > > Another is of course who is doing the hosting. Currently we're using > > > ZC's infrastructure for SVN. We need to shift it away from ZC's > > > infrastructure at some point to make it easier to give other people > > > access. ZC can say more about this, however. > > > > I'm sure we'd find somebody willing to host at least the subversion > > repository. We just need to get to a point where we can say: Hey, the > > ZF now owns Zope, who wants to host it? > > I would highly recommend we move to some sort of neutral OSS service > that hosts projects like this (ie sf.net). I know plone is evaluating > using some of the services at code.google.com (but I don't believe SVN > is one of them although I could be mistaken). Plone will use svn at google for backup and load distribution purposes: svn.plone.org is going to be synced realtime to both google and another plone.org server, both of which are accessible read-only by anyone. We are also considering storing releases on code.google.com. You can see the current Plone egg and some plone.* packages there already as a test. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
On Mon, February 5, 2007 12:26, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: >> Some of the holdup is in the bylaws. The bylaws were, simply put, >> rather overengineered, and we've been struggling to cut them down so >> we can actually work with them. This is holding up the IP transfer. > > Ok. Is there anything us mere mortals can do to speed up this process? > >> Another is of course who is doing the hosting. Currently we're using >> ZC's infrastructure for SVN. We need to shift it away from ZC's >> infrastructure at some point to make it easier to give other people >> access. ZC can say more about this, however. > > I'm sure we'd find somebody willing to host at least the subversion > repository. We just need to get to a point where we can say: Hey, the > ZF now owns Zope, who wants to host it? > can anyone estimate on how much traffic the svn-repos will generate? we have enough space and cpu time available, but traffic is an issue if it exceeds one or two mbits average per month (300-600gb)... regards, jürgen herrmann ___ >> XLhost.de - eXperts in Linux hosting << Jürgen Herrmann Konrad Adenauer Allee 43, DE-93051 Regensburg Fon: +49 (0)700 XLHOSTDE [0700 95467833] Fax: +49 (0)721 151 463027 WEB: http://www.XLhost.de ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
--On 4. Februar 2007 18:44:38 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On 4. Februar 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I think it has been mentioned before, you have to contact Jim. No one outside of ZC is allowed to perform administration tasks that require root access on the box. Oh. Since we have volunteers (like you :)), I wonder why the keys can't be turned over to the foundation by now? Can somebody from the board explain what the hold-up is and what we need to do open access to well established members of the community like Jens? ZC company policy has changed, it used to be lenient, it no longer is. My take on it right now is this: If I'm required to beg anyone at ZC or chase people at ZC down myself to make this happen I am un-volunteering. I care, but not that much anymore. I'm willing to help, but I won't jump through arbitrary hoops in order to do so. No reason more to enfore the handover of the remaining responsibilities from ZC to the Zope Foundation. We should discuss that on the foundation list. Should be "One more reason" Andreas pgpTMwc3Sda0W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
--On 4. Februar 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I think it has been mentioned before, you have to contact Jim. No one outside of ZC is allowed to perform administration tasks that require root access on the box. Oh. Since we have volunteers (like you :)), I wonder why the keys can't be turned over to the foundation by now? Can somebody from the board explain what the hold-up is and what we need to do open access to well established members of the community like Jens? ZC company policy has changed, it used to be lenient, it no longer is. My take on it right now is this: If I'm required to beg anyone at ZC or chase people at ZC down myself to make this happen I am un-volunteering. I care, but not that much anymore. I'm willing to help, but I won't jump through arbitrary hoops in order to do so. No reason more to enfore the handover of the remaining responsibilities from ZC to the Zope Foundation. We should discuss that on the foundation list. Andreas pgp4UfRwsENOU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I think it has been mentioned before, you have to contact Jim. No one outside of ZC is allowed to perform administration tasks that require root access on the box. Oh. Since we have volunteers (like you :)), I wonder why the keys can't be turned over to the foundation by now? Can somebody from the board explain what the hold-up is and what we need to do open access to well established members of the community like Jens? ZC company policy has changed, it used to be lenient, it no longer is. My take on it right now is this: If I'm required to beg anyone at ZC or chase people at ZC down myself to make this happen I am un- volunteering. I care, but not that much anymore. I'm willing to help, but I won't jump through arbitrary hoops in order to do so. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFxhpKRAx5nvEhZLIRAnCHAJ46Fs6+nsJB7tnPxVKDCptYqXCabACcDuXU LvR2lIpVfZqN/7REHFGDzj0= =nMg+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 12:47, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use svn:externals during development and potentially fix issues ourselves as appropriate. Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I think it has been mentioned before, you have to contact Jim. No one outside of ZC is allowed to perform administration tasks that require root access on the box. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFxg2bRAx5nvEhZLIRAgsbAJ0fqkNK+ICKywSGSL72+8PmhD3/FQCgp9m8 zp6dPA3z2z1JYEX7heUuDco= =lHPM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> >Dieter Maurer wrote:
> >>Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery"
> >>is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them
> >>if
> >>"AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution.
> >
> >I fail to find an explanation *why* that is.
>
> I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having
> it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use
> svn:externals during development and potentially fix issues ourselves as
> appropriate.
Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is
currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a
lot of us very happy.
Wichert.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
Replying to my own post, Am 03.02.2007 um 15:14 schrieb Janko Hauser: There are hardly "new", though, they've been around for ages and have enthusiastic users. Those users always found it hard to convince people to adopt them more widely because they were not in the standard repositories and a bit "scary" That's clearly a point to make clear, that splitting the code or to do big refactorings needs someone with deep knowledge of the code and its dependancy into the cataloging framework. What I wanted to express here is, that the inclusion as products is somewhat easier and more clearly defined, than to do a complete integration and restructuring of the whole index framework/code. So I propose to do this in two or more steps. With regards, __Janko PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?
First let me say, that I'm in favour to add these products to Zope in some form, to take the chance to enhance the zcatalog significantly. Am 03.02.2007 um 14:34 schrieb Martin Aspeli: yuppie wrote: - Should we add new products to the core? I thought we want to move away from products and use python packages instead. The AdvancedQuery code might become part of the ZCatalog package, ManagableIndex might be converted to a non-products package. There are hardly "new", though, they've been around for ages and have enthusiastic users. Those users always found it hard to convince people to adopt them more widely because they were not in the standard repositories and a bit "scary" That's clearly a point to make clear, that splitting the code or to do big refactorings needs someone with deep knowledge of the code and its dependancy into the cataloging framework. - I think any chance to resolve that should be taken. I'm quite bad for reshuffling code just for the sake of aesthetics, but I don't think having them as products should be any kind of barrier until products are officially deprecated (no, I didn't say that, let's not go there this decade). +1 I think the first step is svn.zope.org. That makes them accessible for other people to work on. Shipping with Zope 2.x may or may not be a worthwhile goal in the short term - probably we need someone to cut a branch, see what it would look like and collectively review that. Another point is that for example hurry is already using parts of the code. So there are possibilities to look for integration in zope3 too. With regards, __Janko -- Janko Hauser email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: +49 1721 641552 PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
