Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-18 Thread Marc Lindahl
>> Well, no, not really. Being able to edit stuff remotely is where Zope's > real strength >> lies. WebDAV and FTP are much better than using sucky HTTP forms to do > this ;-) The fact that Zope has a TTW interface indicates that the software itself has the opinion that TTW is valuable - otherwis

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-16 Thread Adrian Hungate
> > > > Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the TTW part is what is one of the > > strenghts of Zope - > > Well, no, not really. Being able to edit stuff remotely is where Zope's real strength > lies. WebDAV and FTP are much better than using sucky HTTP forms to do this ;-) Babies. bathwater.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-15 Thread Paul Everitt
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: [snip] > It seems that ZPT is mostly aimed at the Page Designer, whereas DTML is > mostly aimed at the Developer. Would this be a correct assesment of the > situation? I think that assesment is mostly right. It's definately right on the ZPT part. As ChrisW mentioned,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Withers
Hi Dario, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > > Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the TTW part is what is one of the > strenghts of Zope - Well, no, not really. Being able to edit stuff remotely is where Zope's real strength lies. WebDAV and FTP are much better than using sucky HTTP forms to do this

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-15 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > it is hard to read (Some of us design Zope > > sites TTW...) > > Un-learn that habit too. It's so nice having things like search & replace and syntax > highlighting afterall... > Now, this is an interesting statement and one I have heard often, and

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Withers
> From: "Marc Lindahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > in the implementation on certain browsers. Which points to the inability > of > > supposedly real programmers to understand stacks, parsing, state > machines - > > not the poor HTML coders :) - if you read diatribes by the layout guys > > (like ali

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-15 Thread Adrian Hungate
is Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "zope-dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain > on 5/14/02 4:43 AM, Chris Withers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrivened: > > > Marc Lindahl wrote: > >

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-14 Thread Marc Lindahl
on 5/14/02 4:43 AM, Chris Withers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrivened: > Marc Lindahl wrote: >> >>> Sorry, but I don't see a 'stack' of any sort being easy to explain to a >>> newbie >>> or not programmer. >> >> I'd disagree - HTML has this concept - for example the way table tags >> inherit propert