Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Jonas Meurer
hello, On 13/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org wrote: another build system would be magnificent :-) the new build system in zope2.12 makes it hard/impossible to distribute zope2 binaries within linux/*bsd/hurd/...

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org wrote: first, thanks for clarifying. did i get you right, that for the future, monolithic source releases of zope2 are planned again once the dust has settled? No. There is currently no monolithic released planned at all.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Meurer wrote: hello, On 13/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org wrote: another build system would be magnificent :-) the new build system in zope2.12 makes it

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, thanks to all of you for the feedback. Given the general agreement to the plan, I'm going to release a first alpha on Friday June 25. More alpha releases will follow depending on the changes that go into the codebase. But I expect them on a roughly 3-4 weeks basis. If the code stays as

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 12.06.2010, 20:58 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: Comments, suggestions, more work you'd like to get into 2.13? Hi Hanno, thanks for the information. I'm a little confused by the narrative - is Plone 4.0 being held back by a Zope 2 release? As I don't use Plone I don't

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Charlie, On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: thanks for the information. I'm a little confused by the narrative - is Plone 4.0 being held back by a Zope 2 release? No, Plone 4 is delayed for all the normal reasons of too many open bugs

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org wrote: Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python release been documented anywhere? Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva were the last to do these reviews, maybe they know. Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: On the whole, I would actually favor getting a 2.13.0 out even sooner than Hanno suggests, to get it used (and therefore more polished) sooner.  With the post-eggification reduction in Zope2's scope, I think a six month

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Meurer wrote: thus i suggest to either provide monolithic tarballs which do contain the debendencies, or change release policy for the dependencies to not break backwards compability with every minor release. I think this discussion

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-06-13, at 1348, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org wrote: Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python release been documented anywhere? Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva were

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Meurer wrote: hey, On 12/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: What do we have in Zope 2.13: [...] Comments, suggestions, more work you'd like to get into 2.13? another build system would be magnificent :-) the new build system in

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org wrote: Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python release been documented anywhere? Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
hey, On 12/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: What do we have in Zope 2.13: [...] Comments, suggestions, more work you'd like to get into 2.13? another build system would be magnificent :-) the new build system in zope2.12 makes it hard/impossible to distribute zope2 binaries within