Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:03 , Jim Fulton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > ... >> I suspect there might be releases lurking elsewhere. I'll run the script >> I used to generate the dump for other parts of the database, just in case. > > There were a few releases under Documentation and quite a few under Members. > > I've put Documentation.tgz and Members.tgz in app2.zope.org:/home/zope Thanks Jim. Those files are now stitched into old.zope.org as well. I'm going to prepare an email to zope-...@zope.org now describing the conversion and asking people to check for any files they may depend on (buildouts, etc). jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: ... > I suspect there might be releases lurking elsewhere. I'll run the script > I used to generate the dump for other parts of the database, just in case. There were a few releases under Documentation and quite a few under Members. I've put Documentation.tgz and Members.tgz in app2.zope.org:/home/zope Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 20:31 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >> I've created ~zope/Products.tgz on app2.zope.org that has all of the >> release files in a directory structure rooted at Products. I >> recommend: >> >> 1. For all html files in the existing static site, remove link endings >> "/swreleasefile_view" >> 2. Walk the directory tree in Products.tgz and for each path, replace >> whatever is in >> the static site with the contents of the tar ball. > > I've now done it the simple way using Apache RewriteRules. Any resource path > starting with /Products and ending in either .exe, .tgz or .gz is now served > from a separate tree. That way I can leave the HTML sources alone and all > links continue to work. If there are any unforeseen issues with this approach > I'll take another look, but for right now things seem to work well enough. Cool. I suspect there might be releases lurking elsewhere. I'll run the script I used to generate the dump for other parts of the database, just in case. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Oct 11, 2011, at 20:31 , Jim Fulton wrote: > I've created ~zope/Products.tgz on app2.zope.org that has all of the > release files in a directory structure rooted at Products. I > recommend: > > 1. For all html files in the existing static site, remove link endings > "/swreleasefile_view" > 2. Walk the directory tree in Products.tgz and for each path, replace > whatever is in >the static site with the contents of the tar ball. I've now done it the simple way using Apache RewriteRules. Any resource path starting with /Products and ending in either .exe, .tgz or .gz is now served from a separate tree. That way I can leave the HTML sources alone and all links continue to work. If there are any unforeseen issues with this approach I'll take another look, but for right now things seem to work well enough. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >>> But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items >>> *past* the tarball filename, like >>> >>> XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view. >>> >>> If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't >>> need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but >>> you cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site >>> anymore. The navigation links there will all break. >> >> Can you give an example? > > Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for > the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe. > > >> Maybe we need to clean up those links. > > Yes, that's another option. +1 :) I've created ~zope/Products.tgz on app2.zope.org that has all of the release files in a directory structure rooted at Products. I recommend: 1. For all html files in the existing static site, remove link endings "/swreleasefile_view" 2. Walk the directory tree in Products.tgz and for each path, replace whatever is in the static site with the contents of the tar ball. If you don't have time to do this and want to give me access, I can do this. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items >> *past* the tarball filename, like >> >> XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view. >> >> If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't >> need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you >> cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site >> anymore. The navigation links there will all break. > > Can you give an example? Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe. > Maybe we need to clean up those links. Yes, that's another option. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 16:53 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote: >>> If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in folders, can you knit it into the static site? >>> >>> I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal >>> links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately >>> and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files >>> themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…] >> >> I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy >> directories with the actual tar balls. > > But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items > *past* the tarball filename, like > > XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view. > > If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't > need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you > cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site > anymore. The navigation links there will all break. Can you give an example? Maybe we need to clean up those links. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Oct 11, 2011, at 16:53 , Jim Fulton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote: >> >>> If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in >>> folders, can you knit it into the static site? >> >> I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal >> links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately >> and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files >> themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…] > > I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy > directories with the actual tar balls. But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items *past* the tarball filename, like XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view. If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site anymore. The navigation links there will all break. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >> If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in >> folders, can you knit it into the static site? > > I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal > links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately > and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files > themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…] I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy directories with the actual tar balls. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote: > If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in > folders, can you knit it into the static site? I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…] jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > Hi Jim, > >> Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you >> have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should >> put it. >> >> As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course), >> I'll decommission the current machines. > > Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the > software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no > Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders > containing the view templates "swreleasefile_view" and "viewMD5". If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in folders, can you knit it into the static site? Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
Hi Jim, > Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you > have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should > put it. > > As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course), > I'll decommission the current machines. Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders containing the view templates "swreleasefile_view" and "viewMD5". jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >>> Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume >>> you >>> have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should >>> put it. >>> >>> As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course), >>> I'll decommission the current machines. >> >> I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks! > > Hi Jim, > > I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It > works, mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has > propagated and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go > away. > > Thanks for the tarball! Thanks for setting up the new old site. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > Hi Jim, > >> Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you >> have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should >> put it. >> >> As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course), >> I'll decommission the current machines. > > I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks! Hi Jim, I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It works, mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has propagated and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go away. Thanks for the tarball! jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
Hi Jim, > Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you > have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should > put it. > > As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course), > I'll decommission the current machines. I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks! jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote: >>> It looks like zope.org has moved. Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content? >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from >>> looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old >>> Zope releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available >>> for the moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep >>> the scope small. >> >> Can we spider this into a static site? > > > Hi Jim, > > I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a static > site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for anyone to log in > and access protected content, unless a sysadmin needs to fix something. If > it's static I could immediately move it off to one of the ZF-controlled > servers, too. Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should put it. As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course), I'll decommission the current machines. I'm working on deploying an app for management of user accounts for svn access. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving >> all exisiting URLs. > > What incantation should I use? I think I've got it now. I had to tell it to ignore robots. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving > all exisiting URLs. What incantation should I use? Why should I use this rather than wget? Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving all exisiting URLs. Andreas Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl >> wrote: >>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote: >>> It looks like zope.org has moved. Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content? >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you >>> can see from looking at the site, we tried to keep content under >>> /Products (e.g. old Zope releases) and under /Members (member >>> content and software) available for the moment since very little >>> of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope small. >> Can we spider this into a static site? > > > Hi Jim, > > I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a > static site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for > anyone to log in and access protected content, unless a sysadmin > needs to fix something. If it's static I could immediately move it > off to one of the ZF-controlled servers, too. > > jens > > > > ___ Zope-web maillist - > Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web - -- ZOPYX Limited | zopyx group Charlottenstr. 37/1 | The full-service network for Zope & Plone D-72070 Tübingen| Produce & Publish www.zopyx.com | www.produce-and-publish.com - E-Publishing, Python, Zope & Plone development, Consulting -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQGUBAEBAgAGBQJOUS+VAAoJEADcfz7u4AZjEu8LwNODR8+U5gb22suZrX7pH7jc grGvxkWDUHvbQxq/pxMEW42V20wjdhdckvXp+wY0Q/AwyL2gpqm1tLg4xzN4Q50P fI2R/fyWBo0jxSZt0/7olFR70iCDAz667ERZeWMAM6CRZjObzmDpH69//BJAg30L ozuuLfGyLi+kcXUGswsxcAbWFdW2cE2UlawP9Aam6s3w9uN/vna/6TURB3YtAXXI b+CzR5y+5bsMMnJ4IgSE6Yb8xVxZIpNDDHKvQ+cS5V/FfDR+RxJ9iL/Sk5gmPBfA Yfl8FLmPZi9hHcSZ6YvvJ5FLOAFQJK2I0tRYyeV4BhanMzVrZ2oPzC/uX0OkEsFr WPKzMxDoP/69TyY7/3p2ER+YJSut8U9MD4RlMAnLo6MBVDYsMz9DLeT5j7wYpdQN LtyKwE7noYn6dTu+hK1UdixKqudpnWYhTvSIk0HR7c+VqOYgKxRU3qL6+GFh3aZZ 3E16JnvGZu14i/MTA2bZnr3OPOZ7ur8= =A38G -END PGP SIGNATURE- <>___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> >> On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote: >> >>> It looks like zope.org has moved. >>> >>> Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to >>> zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content? >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from >> looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old Zope >> releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available for the >> moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep the >> scope small. > > Can we spider this into a static site? Hi Jim, I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a static site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for anyone to log in and access protected content, unless a sysadmin needs to fix something. If it's static I could immediately move it off to one of the ZF-controlled servers, too. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote: > >> It looks like zope.org has moved. >> >> Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to >> zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content? > > Hi Mark, > > Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from > looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old Zope > releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available for the > moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope > small. Can we spider this into a static site? Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move
On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote: > It looks like zope.org has moved. > > Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to > zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content? Hi Mark, Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old Zope releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available for the moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope small. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web