[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hey, > > Another point of feedback: > > I saw Stephan's mail on a (partially new) toolchain and somewhat > extensive workflow on using it. I'm a bit surprised a toolchain is > necessary and that the workflow is so involved.

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-07 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] Let me make the case for bug-for-bug compatibility: I assume by this you mean setting fixed versions. Yes. [snip] I'm not suggesting that setting fixed versions is a bad idea. I think some projects may choose to go this way. This is a valid policy decision. Othe

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-07 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 7, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/6/07, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Only people who ask for updates. Which by default is every time somebody runs a buildout, right? Yes I think this depends on the use cases. I think most people would like to get bug fixe

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-07 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: On Oct 6, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] What I really don't like about this proposal is that it talks about updating index pages. If I understand this right, an updated index page will force everybody t

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/6/07, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only people who ask for updates. Which by default is every time somebody runs a buildout, right? > I think this depends on the use cases. I think most people would > like to get bug fixes. The intent of such a 3.4 index would be to > give peop

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Oct 6, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] What I really don't like about this proposal is that it talks about updating index pages. If I understand this right, an updated index page will force everybody that uses this index page into an update. Only people

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 6, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, I'm glad some steps are taken! What I really don't like about this proposal is that it talks about updating index pages. If I understand this right, an updated index page will force everybody that uses this index page into an update.

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
Jim Fulton wrote: I discussed this a bit this afternoon with Stephan and we came up with an idea that we think might help. Stephan is going to try to prototype it. I'll try to explain it. snip Hopefully, this will give us much greater stability than we've had up to now. For what it is wo

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Another point of feedback: I saw Stephan's mail on a (partially new) toolchain and somewhat extensive workflow on using it. I'm a bit surprised a toolchain is necessary and that the workflow is so involved. With Grok's approach using extends in buildout, we can just publish such a list o

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Benji York wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: 2. How many packages should be controlled in this index? I think we should definitely add packages from z3c and the zc namespace. What is the motivation to include non-controlled packages? I suppose it is to let people use those packages with (in this

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 05 October 2007 22:45, Benji York wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: 2. How many packages should be controlled in this index? I think we should definitely add packages from z3c and the zc namespace. What is the motivation to include non-controlled packages? Jim me

[Zope3-dev] Re: Known-good-sets problem

2007-10-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I'm glad some steps are taken! What I really don't like about this proposal is that it talks about updating index pages. If I understand this right, an updated index page will force everybody that uses this index page into an update. I don't think this is acceptable. Instead I'd suggest