Re: [Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-06 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Benji York wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: * What can we learn from Rails / Django / TurboGears? Fun presentation along those lines: http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov One of the best put together movies I've seen. Yeah, really awesome! Should have won the Oscar! ;) Another

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: traceback when running tests for zope.app.component

2006-03-06 Thread Benji York
jürgen Kartnaller wrote: Benji York wrote: I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised version can be reapplied soon. Still the same problem after your revert ! The tests pass on my box and on all

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I wasn't trying to define app server. I was describing the Zope app server. As long as you realize you do risk confusion even by saying 'Zope app server'. To me, Zope 3 is an app server, so when you say 'the Zope app server' will include its functionalities too.

[Zope3-dev] Re: traceback when running tests for zope.app.component

2006-03-06 Thread j.kartnaller
Benji York wrote: jürgen Kartnaller wrote: Benji York wrote: I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised version can be reapplied soon. Still the same problem after your revert ! The tests pass on

[Zope3-dev] Re: traceback when running tests for zope.app.component

2006-03-06 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 j.kartnaller wrote: Benji York wrote: jürgen Kartnaller wrote: Benji York wrote: I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised version can be

Re: [Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 09:45 +, Stefane Fermigier wrote: Benji York wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: * What can we learn from Rails / Django / TurboGears? Fun presentation along those lines: http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov I saw that last week from some internal folks at my

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope Eggs

2006-03-06 Thread Jeff Shell
Cool effort. One thing that I noticed in Rails when I downloaded it this weekend was how you installed plug-ins. Very easy. There are various 'sources' that can be loaded up which work, I assume, in a similar manner to how you can point easy_install at a web page and tell it 'find links'. To

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope Eggs

2006-03-06 Thread Nathan R. Yergler
I think a good goal would be to have something like this: A Zope instance home aware package/egg loader, so that in an instance home you could add in packages like this: $ bin/package install zc.catalog $ bin/package install hurry This wouldn't be difficult to implement (at least in a

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-06 Thread Fred Drake
On 3/6/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In modern Zope[2] schemas, there is a general purpose abstract type precisely for this kind of extensions. When Tres and I added this, we planned specifically to see how it was received by the Zope 2 community. If people liked the way this was

Movies, audiences, wasted effort, was Re: [Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-06 Thread Paul Winkler
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 04:04:48PM -0500, Benji York wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: * What can we learn from Rails / Django / TurboGears? Fun presentation along those lines: http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov One of the best put together movies I've seen. Really interesting

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-06 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: At: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/UseConfigParserForHighLevelConfiguration Sorry, working offline, can't check, hope I haven't missed anything crucial :-S Is a proposal for using ConfigParser, rather than ZConfig for high-level configuration. Comments welcome. This

Re: Movies, audiences, wasted effort, was Re: [Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-06 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 05:13:57PM -0700, Jeff Shell wrote: On 3/6/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A similar app could've been written pretty quickly in Zope 3 by writing a schema and using browser:addform, browser:editform, and browser:schemadisplay. It would be interesting to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-03-06 Thread Jake
On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: So, my proposal would be to tone down the vision to what we have already: a co-evolving Zope 3 and Zope 2, with Zope 2 following and Zope 3 leading (or Zope 2 driving Zope 3 forward, however you want to see it). No renaming necessary. No