Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Fred Drake
On 9/26/07, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, I'd still like the process *without* > the tool comprehensible by normal human beings. Agreed; I was trying to usurp the goal of having a reasonable process. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which rea

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Fred Drake wrote: On 9/26/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Reducing overhead is why I proposed an automated tool. Exactly. I like this approach myself. Sure, I support it too. That said, I'd still like the process *without* the tool comprehensible by normal human beings. The

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-9-26 16:19 +0200: ... * That you should never ever delete a release, even if it's a "brown bag" release. But, if you know it is severely broken and you do not have a working replacement, you should remove it as soon as possible --

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-9-26 16:19 +0200: > ... >* That you should never ever delete a release, even if it's a > "brown bag" release. But, if you know it is severely broken and you do not have a working replacement, you should remove it as soon as possible -- to avoid more people

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:18 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > I definitely think we should work out a human procedure *first*. > > But some tools to assist the human in doing repetitive, failure-prone > work (releasing versions of many eggs) would definitely be appreciated > by me. > > Perhaps

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Fred Drake
On 9/26/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reducing overhead is why I proposed an automated tool. Exactly. I like this approach myself. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller __

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 05:19:45PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Stephan Richter wrote: > [snip] >> Doing another checkout of the tag will create a significant overhead to >> the release process of a package. > > I'd like to highlight this. We need to be careful we don't increase release > over

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: [snip] Doing another checkout of the tag will create a significant overhead to the release process of a package. I'd like to highlight this. We need to be careful we don't increase release overhead too much, other

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: [snip] Doing another checkout of the tag will create a significant overhead to the release process of a package. I'd like to highlight this. We need to be careful we don't increase release overhead too much, otherwise it won't happen/people will make mistakes. Regards

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: I'm not too keen on trying to automate this with a Python script. I suggest we start with a human script. I think Philipp has a start at this. Philipp, could you remind us where this is? I suggest we review it and then post it prominately somewhere that people (I) can easi

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 04:19:35PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Any other suggestions are highly welcome. That problem with building eggs on Windows: if you need to pass some argument to setup.py sdist to get a tar.gz egg, please update http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:19, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > > I, for one, promise to read it every time I make a release until I've > > memorized it. > > It would be good if everybody could use it (as least the section on how > to make releases) as a step-by-step procedure every time.

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: I'm not too keen on trying to automate this with a Python script. I suggest we start with a human script. I agree. I think Philipp has a start at this. Philipp, could you remind us where this is? http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/maintaining-soft

[Zope3-dev] Re: Automated egg releases

2007-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Marius Gedminas wrote: People make mistakes. Can we reduce the number/severity of those mistakes by creating a Python script to automate the release process as much as possible? [snip] I'd be happy to work on such a script during the sprint, if someone could help me figure out what exactly it