RE: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Garrett Smith
Jim Fulton wrote: > You were using? Or implementing? Do you realize that these wern't > actually being used and wern't implemented correctly? Sorry, implementing, not using. > (BTW, One of the reasons for doing this cleanup is to set the stage > for a decent savepoint implementation.) > >>> A

RE: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Garrett Smith
Tim Peters wrote: > Maybe we need to stuff this crap back in again, despite that it's > usless (the only thing actually implemented was an elaborate way of > raising NotImplementedError) and misleading (because the ZODB4 scheme > will never be implemented)? I don't know, but it sure isn't > attrac

Re: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Tim Peters
[Garrett] >>> IDataManager was completely restructured. [Garrett] > This was not accurate -- the restructuring happened a while ago and I > didn't catch it. I assumed this change was made along with the one I > list below. OK, that helps a bit. Thanks! [Tim] >> If you don't have specific breaka

Re: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Garrett Smith wrote: Tim Peters wrote: [Jim Fulton] Was there breakage? If there was, it was unintended. [Garrett] IDataManager was completely restructured. This was not accurate -- the restructuring happened a while ago and I didn't catch it. I assumed this change was made along with the one I li

RE: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Garrett Smith
Tim Peters wrote: > [Jim Fulton] >>> Was there breakage? If there was, it was unintended. > > [Garrett] >> IDataManager was completely restructured. This was not accurate -- the restructuring happened a while ago and I didn't catch it. I assumed this change was made along with the one I list belo

Re: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Tim Peters
[Garrett Smith] >>> Recent changes to the transaction management API seem to have come >>> out of the blue and without warning. Perhaps I missed an >>> announcement. >>> >>> Are we to expect breakages of this sort on occasion? [Jim Fulton] >> Was there breakage? If there was, it was unintended. [

RE: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Garrett Smith
Tim Peters wrote: > [Garrett Smith] >> Recent changes to the transaction management API seem to have come >> out of the blue and without warning. Perhaps I missed an >> announcement. >> >> Are we to expect breakages of this sort on occasion? > > Not often. The formal interfaces for the transact

RE: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Garrett Smith
Jim Fulton wrote: > Garrett Smith wrote: >> Recent changes to the transaction management API seem to have come >> out of the blue and without warning. Perhaps I missed an >> announcement. >> >> Are we to expect breakages of this sort on occasion? > > Was there breakage? If there was, it was unin

Re: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Garrett Smith wrote: Recent changes to the transaction management API seem to have come out of the blue and without warning. Perhaps I missed an announcement. Are we to expect breakages of this sort on occasion? Was there breakage? If there was, it was unintended. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto

Re: [Zope3-dev] Changes to transaction management API

2005-04-16 Thread Tim Peters
[Garrett Smith] > Recent changes to the transaction management API seem to have come > out of the blue and without warning. Perhaps I missed an announcement. > > Are we to expect breakages of this sort on occasion? Not often. The formal interfaces for the transaction API contained errors (of omis