Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Zope 3 startup message

2006-01-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Limi wrote: [snip] Zope tells you where to connect, but way too early in the output. Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG level). Replacing it with Five/Zope 3 i18n is one way to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be rethought. I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. I hate to mention this with all of the discussion about ZConfig, but we should probably consider using PasteDeploy as an alter

[Zope3-dev] Question about re-authentication

2006-01-25 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, when Jim, Steve and I wrote up a good part of the certification specification we added a functional requirement for "reauthentication". This means that: a) Ask a user for new authentication, if he is trying to do something that he can not do, but might be possible if he provides a different

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Zope 3 startup message

2006-01-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: Heh, only with Plone, where PTS spews tons of useless gunk at INFO level. Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG level). Note, that I fixed this in PTS svn, releases after Plone 2.1.2 will be quiet ;) Hanno ___

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be rethought. I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. I hate to mention this with all of the discussion about ZConfig, but we should probably consider usin

Re: [Zope3-dev] Question about re-authentication

2006-01-25 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 05:40, Christian Theune wrote: > I'm quite sure that part b) isn't written yet, but I'm not sure what the > state of part a) is. (a) is done. It is indeed the default Zope behavior. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (P

[Zope3-dev] Missing environment and configuration

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
In Zope 2, we had excess of configuration options and environment variables. In Zope 3, there seems to be no environment variables used, and worse, ZConfig options object seems to be discarded after initial configuration, so there's no way to find out simple stuff like 'where is my INSTANCE_HOME'.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:15:43PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | >Any thoughts? | | I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be | rethought. | | I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. | | I hate to mention this with all of the discussion about ZConf

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/3.2/ - Declare the zope top-level package as a namespace package if

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:30:41PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: | Please revert this revision. As you admit yourself in CHANGES.txt, this is a | new feature. You cannot add new features to a dot release branch. Well, I would go as far as calling it a bugfix. Will revert it then we can discuss.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Missing environment and configuration

2006-01-25 Thread Egon Frerich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 zope.app.applicationcontrol.interfaces.IRuntimeInfo getPythonPath() Sidnei da Silva schrieb am 25.01.2006 16:20: > In Zope 2, we had excess of configuration options and environment > variables. > > In Zope 3, there seems to be no environment variabl

[Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.paste/trunk/README.txt - More explicit

2006-01-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sidnei da Silva wrote: > Log message for revision 41447: > > - More explicit > > > Changed: > U zope.paste/trunk/README.txt > > -=- > Modified: zope.paste/trunk/README.txt >

Re: [Zope3-dev] Missing environment and configuration

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: In Zope 2, we had excess of configuration options and environment variables. How did you have access to configuration options? In Zope 3, there seems to be no environment variables used, and worse, ZConfig options object seems to be discarded after initial configuration

[Zope3-dev] Re: Question about re-authentication

2006-01-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 05:40, Christian Theune wrote: > >>I'm quite sure that part b) isn't written yet, but I'm not sure what the >>state of part a) is. > > > (a) is done. It is indeed the default Zope behavior. Hmm,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:15:43PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | >Any thoughts? | | I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be | rethought. | | I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. | | I hate to mention this with all of t

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Zope 3 startup message

2006-01-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: > >> >> Heh, only with Plone, where PTS spews tons of useless gunk at INFO level. >> >> Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG >> level). > > > Note, that I fixed this in

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | >There are a bunch of issues to be resolved, like the fact that it's | >not possible to access the initial ZConfig options object because it's | >thrown away, so, in order of priority: | > | >1. It's not possible to find where the is. |

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.paste/trunk/README.txt - More explicit

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:13:35PM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote: | Interesting. Can you extend the README to show a sample of configuring | it "end-to-end" (e.g., how to set up a simple WSGI server and configure | it to use the WSGI application)? Yeah. Will do. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems, LL