Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-1-3 17:12 -0500:
>
>There will be an instance recipe that can generate instances that use
>applications. In a (Unix) production deployment, these instances
>will have their files spread around more or less according to http://
>www.pathname.com/fhs/. There won't
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 06:07:08PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > That's interesting. As a developer, I like things to be
> > self contained. Most Unix system administrators I know want me
> > to follow standard Unix file-system layour conventions (e.g.
> > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/).
>
Martin Aspeli wrote:
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Anyway - I hope these perspectives are useful. I'm certainly not disagreeing
with what you're saying or with the direction you're pointing out. I think
we just need be mindful that there were some good things about the past
approaches as well as problems (not that you'
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:29:03AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 05:12:18PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> >> Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances
> > [...]
> >> I should note that there have been a number of sucessful Zo
Jim Fulton wrote:
>
> I'll make some small comments below, but I want to make a big
> comment to start. Zope 2 and Plone are both examples of
> extensible applications. In my note, I was trying to make the
> point that I think such applications have value. I'd like to
> see them exist. I'd
Chris Withers wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
None of this should be taken as any sort of edict. I'm also not
trying to name anything. While I'd love to spur discussion, I hope not
to start any arguments. :)
On that front, I'll note that I've seen 3 patterns emerge in the
projects I work on:
1.
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 05:12:18PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances
[...]
I should note that there have been a number of sucessful Zope 3
applications that were not the OFS. In fact, some of the earliest
I'll make some small comments below, but I want to make a big
comment to start. Zope 2 and Plone are both examples of
extensible applications. In my note, I was trying to make the
point that I think such applications have value. I'd like to
see them exist. I'd like to see them done well. I t
Jim Fulton wrote:
None of this should be taken as any sort of edict. I'm also not trying
to name anything. While I'd love to spur discussion, I hope not to start
any arguments. :)
On that front, I'll note that I've seen 3 patterns emerge in the
projects I work on:
1. Development: lots of d
I'll be happy to see the complete eggification - the sooner the better.
The only issue I see as a possible negative is that it may be hard for
folks to visualize z3's potential. AFAIK the framework approach has not
negatively impacted Twisted that has some documentation and a book but
no core a
> Behalf Of Jim Fulton
> Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances
[...]
> Of course, I'll release these recipes when I have them.
>
I think that's a good idea and we will use them. Probably
we write our own recipes in our projects (if we understand them).
But I also t
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 17:12, Jim Fulton wrote:
> In summary, I'm seeing Zope 3 applications as separate entities from
> the OFS. The OFS application isn't something we'll use directlty.
> Instances will be instances of our applications, not of Zope 3.
>
> I should note that there have b
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 05:12:18PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances
[...]
> I should note that there have been a number of sucessful Zope 3
> applications that were not the OFS. In fact, some of the earliest
> production Zope 3 appli
Jim Fulton wrote:
>
> Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances
>
I found this very interesting. As more of an indirect consumer to Zope 3
(but user of Zope 3 via Five and developer of Plone on Zope 2), here are
some of my own thoughts.
In the Zope2/CMF/Plone world,
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