Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Referencing objects in auto-generated forms

2006-04-18 Thread Frank Burkhardt
Hi,.

On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:48:37PM -0500, Jeff Rush wrote:

[snip]

 Frank, I thought vocabularies were being de-emphasized though, in favor of 
 the newer 'sources' component?  
 Vocabularies were good for short lists of choices, but because it read them 
 all into memory at once not so good 
 at lazy evaluation.  Sources supposedly uses an iterator and is good for both 
 short and long lists, as I roughly 
 understand it.

Hmm - I've heard about Sources before but I didn't know the difference to
vocabularies. Thank you for the hint.

BTW: Does de-emphasized mean deprecated and no longer supported in 
Zope3.nnn ?

Regards,

Frank
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[Zope3-Users] formlib problem

2006-04-18 Thread Stéphane Brault
Hi,
 I can't use formlib, when I run the example in the form.txt I get this error:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File pyshell#29, line 1, in -toplevel-
 print MyForm(None, request)()
   File pyshell#26, line 6, in __call__
 widgets = form.setUpWidgets(self.form_fields, 'form', self.context, 
self.request, ignore_request= ignore_request)
   File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\formlib\form.py, line 255, in 
setUpWidgets
 IInputWidget)
   File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\component\__init__.py, line 154, 
in getMultiAdapter
 raise ComponentLookupError(objects, interface, name)
 ComponentLookupError: ((, http://127.0.0.1), , u'')
 
 It happens when setUpWidgets is called in the first example, do I need to 
import something or to configure a component for formlib to work ?
 Any hint ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Stéphane


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[Zope3-Users] ZEO Zope3 and Twisted

2006-04-18 Thread David Pratt
Is there any plan to provide security for ZEO client / server 
communication using Twisted now that it is in Zope3? Many thanks


Regards,
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[Zope3-Users] Sending data to widgets

2006-04-18 Thread Frank Burkhardt
Hi,

I need to send some data from a view class to all widgets that are
used in the form. Unfortunately some of the widget that need to receive those
data are contained e.g. in lists or dictionaries.

I tried to do somthing like this:

 request._data=somedata

My view class would add 'somedata' to the request and all the widget would be 
able
to use it.

But the the BrowserRequest doesn't like to be modified. It there a chance to
transport data throught the request object without modifying the depth
of the zope core?

Maybe there's a way for widgets to access the view class directly?

Regards,

Frank
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[Zope3-Users] Re: Sending data to widgets

2006-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hi Frank,

 I need to send some data from a view class to all widgets that are
 used in the form. Unfortunately some of the widget that need to receive those
 data are contained e.g. in lists or dictionaries.
 
 I tried to do somthing like this:
 
  request._data=somedata
 
 My view class would add 'somedata' to the request and all the widget would be 
 able
 to use it.
 
 But the the BrowserRequest doesn't like to be modified.

Right. Requests are read-only to the application.

 It there a chance to transport data throught the request object
 without modifying the depth of the zope core?
 
 Maybe there's a way for widgets to access the view class directly?

A typical solution is to push data to the widgets. IWidget (from
zope.app.form.interfaces) defines a 'setRenderedValue' method for
widgets that can be used to do that.

If you are using zope.formlib, you can also implement a custom
setUpWidgets method (documented in IFormBaseCustomization from
zope.formlib.interfaces). The default one for edit forms looks like this:

def setUpWidgets(self, ignore_request=False):
self.adapters = {}
self.widgets = setUpEditWidgets(
self.form_fields, self.prefix, self.context, self.request,
adapters=self.adapters, ignore_request=ignore_request
)

setUpEditWidgets (defined in zope.formlib.form) will take the widget's
default values from self.context. For example, you could pass in
something other than that (perhaps an object holding the data you want
the widgets to present). You just have to make sure that it also
provides the interface that you're generating the form from.

Philipp

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Re: [Zope3-Users] Creating PluggableAuthentication problem.

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Howitz

Tobias Weber wrote:

Hello!

I try to add a PluggableAuthentication and a PrincipalFolder automatically.
When I add a principal to the PrincipalFolder it works fine, but the 
authentification of the User fails. When I add one more 
PluggableAuthentication manually and choose the automatically generated 
PrincipalFolder as authenticator plugin, it works.

Here is my code:
[...]
I am sorry for this code, I try to figure out how it works.


Did you have a look at this thread:
http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/zope3-users@zope.org/3786410.html

There I pasted an example how I did it.

HTH,
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Referencing objects in auto-generated forms

2006-04-18 Thread Gary Poster


On Apr 18, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Frank Burkhardt wrote:


Hi,.

On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:48:37PM -0500, Jeff Rush wrote:

[snip]

Frank, I thought vocabularies were being de-emphasized though, in  
favor of the newer 'sources' component?
Vocabularies were good for short lists of choices, but because it  
read them all into memory at once not so good
at lazy evaluation.  Sources supposedly uses an iterator and is  
good for both short and long lists, as I roughly

understand it.


No, actually, both can be used for infinite choices or finite  
choices.  The primary difference to me is purity: sources break apart  
the token functionality--an aspect of display that widgets need--from  
the data definition.


Up until fairly recently (i.e., post-3.2, I believe) you couldn't  
even express a finite source.


There are still more vocabulary widgets than source widgets in  
zope.app.form.


Sources are slated to replace vocabularies, but the uptake has been  
slow: I don't know of a hard date.


Gary

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[Zope3-Users] Re: Use Case for a Tree of Adapter Registries?

2006-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jeff Rush wrote:
 I've read the code for adapter registries, how there is a global one and
 any number of local ones, arranged in a tree and that each can be disabled.
 
 But I can't figure out when you'd want to make use of such an
 arrangement. The docstrings and .txt files use abstract examples, for
 unit testing, and don't provide a motivation for this feature.
 
 Related to that, the global registry is loaded at server startup time
 from the various .zcml directives, and I presume that the only way to
 loaded up a local registry is thru-the-web, right?  Which means all
 local registries are persistent in the ZODB, I think.
 
 Can anyone nudge me onto the right path?

This is going to change with Zope 3.3 so unless you really need to
understand how Zope 3.1 and 3.2 work in this respect, I recommend you
take a look at the zope.component package in the jim-adapter branch of
Zope 3 in SVN.

The ideas behind the simplifications in this branch are:

- There's one global component registry.

- There can be other registries (no relation implied now).

- If registries want to imply a relation, they can refer to other
registries in their __bases__ attribute so that component lookup will
cascade to those.

- Registries *can* be persistent, but don't have to be. A persistent
registry will typically adjust its __bases__ so that it refers to the
next site's registry or, in case that doesn't exist, to the global registry.

The result is that you will be able to register things to a
non-persistent, but also non-global registry. This registry *could* be
identified with a site. This essentially means that some local
configuration can be expressed through ZCML and doesn't need persistent,
TTW management.

There's also a more low-level advantage. All those component registries
are essentially one implementation with some very tiny variations. The
code is very compact. The high-level advantage is that the APIs for
global, local and/or persistent registrations are identical.

HTH.

Philipp

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Re: [Zope3-Users] formlib problem

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Howitz

Stéphane Brault wrote:

Hi,
 I can't use formlib, when I run the example in the form.txt I get this error:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File pyshell#29, line 1, in -toplevel-
 print MyForm(None, request)()
   File pyshell#26, line 6, in __call__
 widgets = form.setUpWidgets(self.form_fields, 'form', self.context, 
self.request, ignore_request= ignore_request)
   File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\formlib\form.py, line 255, in 
setUpWidgets
 IInputWidget)
   File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\component\__init__.py, line 154, 
in getMultiAdapter
 raise ComponentLookupError(objects, interface, name)
 ComponentLookupError: ((, http://127.0.0.1), , u'')


There seems to be something missing before , http... ... did you copy 
it form the browser output?


 
 It happens when setUpWidgets is called in the first example, do I need to import something or to configure a component for formlib to work ?

 Any hint ?


Guess out of the dust: does the interface of the object you want to 
display have a zope.app.container.constraints.containers directive?


This thread seems similar to your problem.
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2006-March/002802.html

HTH,
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Sending data to widgets

2006-04-18 Thread Frank Burkhardt
Hi,

On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 03:20:49PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

[snip]

 Right. Requests are read-only to the application.
 
  It there a chance to transport data throught the request object
  without modifying the depth of the zope core?
  
  Maybe there's a way for widgets to access the view class directly?
 
 A typical solution is to push data to the widgets. IWidget (from
 zope.app.form.interfaces) defines a 'setRenderedValue' method for
 widgets that can be used to do that.
 
 If you are using zope.formlib, you can also implement a custom
 setUpWidgets method (documented in IFormBaseCustomization from
 zope.formlib.interfaces). The default one for edit forms looks like this:
 
 def setUpWidgets(self, ignore_request=False):
 self.adapters = {}
 self.widgets = setUpEditWidgets(
 self.form_fields, self.prefix, self.context, self.request,
 adapters=self.adapters, ignore_request=ignore_request
 )
 
 setUpEditWidgets (defined in zope.formlib.form) will take the widget's
 default values from self.context. For example, you could pass in
 something other than that (perhaps an object holding the data you want
 the widgets to present). You just have to make sure that it also
 provides the interface that you're generating the form from.

My problem is not about data the widget should display but about data
that controls the widget's behaviour.

In this case my form consists of some widgets representing a schema interface
plus a special I18NController widget which is e.g. used to define, in which
order different language versions of the form's fields should be displayed.
(-This is about I18Nd content, stored in dictionary-fields)

Problem is: Some of the Widgets that should receive data from the 
I18NController
are not known to the formlib because they are multiadapter-queried inside e.g.
a ListInputWidget. The request + the context seem to be the only objects 
accessible
to all the widgets - but I don't want to store language order information in 
zodb which
leaves the request object only.

Is there really no chance to store information as attributes of the request?

Regards,

Frank
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[Zope3-Users] Re: Blobs in Z3 anyone?

2006-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
David Pratt wrote:
 Hi I had asked this question about a week ago with no response.
 Filesystem blobs are a valuable means of storing large object data in
 the filesystem instead of the ZODB.  I have previously written a
 repository product in zope2 for blobs but would like to migrate to Z3.
 Does Z3 have an equivalent stream iterator of that of zpublisher? How
 are large objects currently handled in Z3 to get them into the DB
 efficiently if this is not the case? Many thanks.

Christian Theune and Chris McDonough have been working on ZODB blob
support for a while. The ZODB as our persistence layer is the right
level to add blob support, not Zope 3. Once in the ZODB, blobs can be
used across both Zope versions.

Perhaps you might want to contact them and ask them whether you can help
with something so that blobs will make it into ZODB 3.7 (scheduled to be
released with Zope 2.10/3.3)

Philipp

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[Zope3-Users] Object modified or not

2006-04-18 Thread Frank Burkhardt
Hi,

how does Zope decide, if a persistent object is modified?

What I'm interested in:

Does
 
   myobject._foo='bar'
   delattr(myobject,'_foo')
 
make Zope create a new version of the 'myobject' in zodb?

Regards,

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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Sending data to widgets

2006-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hi Frank,

 My problem is not about data the widget should display but about data
 that controls the widget's behaviour.
 
 In this case my form consists of some widgets representing a schema interface
 plus a special I18NController widget which is e.g. used to define, in which
 order different language versions of the form's fields should be displayed.
 (-This is about I18Nd content, stored in dictionary-fields)
 
 Problem is: Some of the Widgets that should receive data from the 
 I18NController
 are not known to the formlib because they are multiadapter-queried inside e.g.
 a ListInputWidget. The request + the context seem to be the only objects 
 accessible
 to all the widgets - but I don't want to store language order information in 
 zodb which
 leaves the request object only.
 
 Is there really no chance to store information as attributes of the request?

Perhaps there is, but I would still advise against it.

In this case I would recommend to make use of the adaption feature of
zope.formlib. The context of the form and widgets doesn't necessarily
have to be the persistent object itself. It can be an adapter. That way
you can generate schema-based forms using schemas that aren't even
provided by the object you're editing. zope.formlib will automatically
adapt the object to the schema. The adapter will be responsible for
mediating between formlib and the object.

An example is the Metadata tab in the ZMI. The schema is something like
IZopeDublinCore (at least some Dublin Core metadata), though no object
really provides this data. However, there's an adapter that the data can
be written to and that knows how to modify the object accordingly.

In your case your adapter would probably behave like the original
context except that it also stores this i18n ordering that you don't
want to be stored persistently but still need for the form.

Hope that helps

Philipp
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Re : FW: [Zope3-Users] formlib problem

2006-04-18 Thread Stéphane Brault
Thanks Pete,
 I registered the adapters in the shell and it works.
 The trouble is that I have the same problem from zope. 
 It seems that the adapters for the shema fields are not registered, 
 therefore I can't have formlib working, even when I register the adapters 
 by code. I don't know what  to do. The fact is I use AJAX, 
 so I don't have to register my pages, since they are never called, but
 used to generate the html I use to update my pages (which works fine 
otherwise). 
 Maybe this explains the behaviour I get, but I doubt it.
 
 Stéphane

- Message d'origine 
De : Pete Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé le : Mardi, 18 Avril 2006, 2h13mn 10s
Objet : Re: FW: [Zope3-Users] formlib problem

formlib works just fine, but from the shell i haven't had much luck
either.  probably need to look at the test suite that runs with
form.txt and do the necessary setup for it to work correctly.  i found
it easier just to build a few sample forms and zcml, and learn by
doing since getting the shell to work right was kinda a pain ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Stéphane Brault
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:42 AM
 To: user-list zope
 Subject: [Zope3-Users] formlib problem

 Hi,
  I can't use formlib, when I run the example in the form.txt I get this
 error:
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File pyshell#29, line 1, in -toplevel-
  print MyForm(None, request)()
File pyshell#26, line 6, in __call__
  widgets = form.setUpWidgets(self.form_fields, 'form', self.context,
 self.request, ignore_request= ignore_request)
File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\formlib\form.py, line 255, in
 setUpWidgets
  IInputWidget)
File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\component\__init__.py, line
 154, in getMultiAdapter
  raise ComponentLookupError(objects, interface, name)
  ComponentLookupError: ((, http://127.0.0.1), , u'')

  It happens when setUpWidgets is called in the first example, do I need to
 import something or to configure a component for formlib to work ?
  Any hint ?

  Thanks,

  Stéphane


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[Zope3-Users] Re: Object modified or not

2006-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Frank Burkhardt wrote:
 how does Zope decide, if a persistent object is modified?
 
 What I'm interested in:
 
 Does
  
myobject._foo='bar'
delattr(myobject,'_foo')

del myobject._foo :)

 make Zope create a new version of the 'myobject' in zodb?

Yes. Persistent objects are regarded modified when

a) they have either received a new attribute,
b) or an old attribute has been set to a new value,
c) or an attribute has been deleted.

Attributes starting with _v_ are considered volatile and won't count in
this.

Note that a) through c) above specifically don't mention the changes
inside an attribute. Consider this:

   some_persistent_obj.alist = []
   transaction.commit()  # some_persistent_obj will be saved

   some_persistent_obj.alist.append(1)
   transaction.commit()  # nothing happens because
# some_persistent_obj itself
# hasn't changed

The workaround is to either make the 'alist' attribute a persisten
object of its own (e.g. a PersistentList). That would mean it gets its
own pickle and is stored independently of 'some_persistent_object'. This
is usually preferrable for large lists or dicts.

Another workaround is to explicitly mark 'some_persistent_obj' as changed:

   some_persistent_obj.alist.append(2)
   some_persistent_obj._p_changed = True
   transaction.commit()


All of this is sort of explained in my book, but Gary Poster has
convinced me that it wasn't explained well enough. This will be fixed. :)

Philipp

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Re : [Zope3-Users] formlib problem

2006-04-18 Thread Stéphane Brault
Thanks Michael,
 There is indeed something missing :
 ComponentLookupError: ((
  zope.schema._bootstrapfields.Int object at 0x01A83610 , 
  zope.publisher.browser.TestRequest instance URL=http://127.0.0.1 ), 
  InterfaceClass zope.app.form.interfaces.IDisplayWidget , u'')
 My problem has nothing to do with containers, since my interface is
 not a container. It seems that zope can't find the adapters for the shema 
fields, even when 
 I register them by code. I really don't know what to do from now.
 The fact is I use AJAX, so I don't need to register my views, I just
 call them from code to use the generated html as a response to a
 javascript call that then update my page.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Stéphane
 
 

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Cc : user-list zope zope3-users@zope.org
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Objet : Re: [Zope3-Users] formlib problem

Stéphane Brault wrote:
 Hi,
  I can't use formlib, when I run the example in the form.txt I get this error:
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File pyshell#29, line 1, in -toplevel-
  print MyForm(None, request)()
File pyshell#26, line 6, in __call__
  widgets = form.setUpWidgets(self.form_fields, 'form', self.context, 
 self.request, ignore_request= ignore_request)
File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\formlib\form.py, line 255, in 
 setUpWidgets
  IInputWidget)
File C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\component\__init__.py, line 154, 
 in getMultiAdapter
  raise ComponentLookupError(objects, interface, name)
  ComponentLookupError: ((, http://127.0.0.1), , u'')

There seems to be something missing before , http... ... did you copy 
it form the browser output?

  
  It happens when setUpWidgets is called in the first example, do I need to 
 import something or to configure a component for formlib to work ?
  Any hint ?

Guess out of the dust: does the interface of the object you want to 
display have a zope.app.container.constraints.containers directive?

This thread seems similar to your problem.
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2006-March/002802.html

HTH,
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Sending data to widgets

2006-04-18 Thread Gary Poster


On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Frank Burkhardt wrote:


Hi,

On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 04:04:43PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen  
wrote:

Hi Frank,

My problem is not about data the widget should display but about  
data

that controls the widget's behaviour.

In this case my form consists of some widgets representing a  
schema interface
plus a special I18NController widget which is e.g. used to  
define, in which
order different language versions of the form's fields should be  
displayed.

(-This is about I18Nd content, stored in dictionary-fields)

Problem is: Some of the Widgets that should receive data from the  
I18NController
are not known to the formlib because they are multiadapter- 
queried inside e.g.
a ListInputWidget. The request + the context seem to be the only  
objects accessible
to all the widgets - but I don't want to store language order  
information in zodb which

leaves the request object only.

Is there really no chance to store information as attributes of  
the request?


Perhaps there is, but I would still advise against it.

In this case I would recommend to make use of the adaption feature of
zope.formlib. The context of the form and widgets doesn't  
necessarily
have to be the persistent object itself. It can be an adapter.  
That way

you can generate schema-based forms using schemas that aren't even
provided by the object you're editing. zope.formlib will  
automatically

adapt the object to the schema. The adapter will be responsible for
mediating between formlib and the object.

An example is the Metadata tab in the ZMI. The schema is something  
like
IZopeDublinCore (at least some Dublin Core metadata), though no  
object
really provides this data. However, there's an adapter that the  
data can

be written to and that knows how to modify the object accordingly.

In your case your adapter would probably behave like the original
context except that it also stores this i18n ordering that you  
don't

want to be stored persistently but still need for the form.


Perhaps it's overkill to write adapter for all my content objects.  
I think
I found a solution. The Request object might be RO but I can  
smuggle an object
reference inside the reponse headers and removed it after all the  
widgets are

processed.


augh! :-)

Philipp is leading you correctly.  I might even be tempted to write a  
custom form that directly set the data for the widgets myself; maybe  
that would be a quicker and easier approach to the same road.


If you still don't want to listen to him, please don't do the  
response hack you are talking about.  the request has an  
`annotations` attribute which experts can use to stash things away.   
Beware: this is a road that has bitten many in Zope 2, and is easily  
abused.


Gary


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[Zope3-Users] Re: Can't build Zope on OS X

2006-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Eric Williams wrote:
 Hi all. I’m having trouble building Zope on OS X. I’ve searched all over
 for a solution but could not find anything. Any help is much appreciated!

[lots of stuff snipped]

Seems to mee like you were using MacPython 2.4.3. According to
http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2006/04/10/python-and-universal-binaries-on-mac-os-x/,
it's not only a fork of the official Python 2.4.3, it also requires
special precautions when building extensions (some SDK installed, etc.).

Try again with the regular Python distro, either compiled from source or
from darwinports or so.

Philipp

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[Zope3-Users] url traversal and jsonserver

2006-04-18 Thread Pete Taylor
hi all,
i've been looking at jsonserver recently, and am very impressed. 
however, my question doesn't really involve jsonserver functionality,
so much as it does a bit of url traversal indirection.

i have a simple dashboard like approach to a particular user
interface design, where most of the content displayed to the user is
determined by content associated with her/his principal id.  like
principal annotations sorta, only I needed/wanted a little more direct
control.  also, all of the content for a user is held in a
registration utility, in ++etc++site.  i've been using viewlets and
formlib to give the users access to their data without actually having
it in the standard traversal path.  that way no smart user can think
hmm, my url is some/path/my_user_id, let me ry some/path/johnsid
etc.  to them my.site/Consumer is all they need to see, which I like.

what i would like to do is set up jsonrpc:view's for a number of the
different content objects that the user has access to in her/his
content directory.  the trouble, for me, comes in when i need to give
the javascript a ServiceProxy address.

while i can probably figure out how to pass a particular url path to
the javascript through some tales construction, it occurs to me that
the object that jsonrpc view is actually providing a json-rpc view ON
is under ++etc++site.  i can't really pass that to the javascript,
since I don't think ++etc++site is going to let the javascript (with
the current principl's authority) connect.

so what I'm wondering about is how to expose content held in a
traversal path like
http://my.site/++etc++site/MyRegistrationUtility/ConsumerStuff/some_user_id/stuff;
to a json-rpc ServiceProxy.

is it possible?  is there a way i could get at this more indirectly? 
would principal annotations provide a better means of url exposure for
picking up a serviceproxy?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts or comments!
Pete

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